You can ground the lead in the right tool box and read the codes by how many times the lights blink when you turn the ignition on.
..now that she's cooled down a little I can get it started and it idles, but when she gets a teensy throttle, she dies. I'll continue checking the obvious, but if anyone has any other ideas they would surely be welcomed!
....me thinks its a fuel/ecu issue.
this is where this ecu thing can get frustrating...i be looking for a loose connection...does taking the battery positive cable off for minute perform a reset of the ecu.....i'm thinking of a forced reboot but as u can c i own a iron but thinking of hard reboot of a cpu....
On the G5 it's under the seat. Right on the connector that plugs into the ECU.
Swapping a sensor is way easier than rebuilding a carburetor. If you understand the electronic systems they're actually fairly simple. Don't be afraid of the dark.Scott
OK, another update...dealer called and said RE suggested changing out the crankshaft location sensor located in the stator/alternator. Seems they think the crankshaft sensor is not telling the ignition when to fire at the proper sequence. They have one coming in under warranty and will let me know if this solves the problem. I understand mechanical issues, but when you start in with electronics & computer brains I'm glad she's still in warranty and the technical gurus are on our side! I'll keep you all posted on if this solves the problem and when I'm back in the wind again.
Swapping a sensor is way easier than rebuilding a carburetor. If you understand the electronic systems they're actually faily simple. Don't be afraid of the dark.
Following all this with interest. I have remarked earlier (and SB seems to verify my perception) that the machanicals of the RE are far more hardy than the electicals ----I still think vibration of an unbalnced single a may play havoc with small wires and connections,----and that the on board diagnostics are only really useful with intact wiring. As has also pointed out, when stranded these aren't road side fixes , especially for the electronically naive. All of which leads me to the conclusion that RE needs to rethink their wiring harness, upgrade wire calibres. put in qualty control steps to check routing for "pinch points" possibly add protective sleeves to protect wiring at susceptable areas , better beefed up connectors, factory soldered splices , possibly even plan in redundancy in wirng paths IF they want to gain the reuputation for reliability and longevity that Siddhartha Lal says they aspire too. Make the Bullet "Bulllet Proof" and it will sell like hotcakes. It has so much going for it besides the cool factor, and so much effort has been make to assemble the right bits and pieces (which by all accounts they have done) , these would be VERY CHEAP AND COST EFFECTIVE FACTORY MEASURES to protect their investment. The devil is in the details. How do we feed back this valuable "field testing" information to the manufacturer? And if electricls are plagueing the bikes here on good roads in a dry climate, what the heck is happening in India with bad roads and monsoons? Nigel
Brilliant post, Nigel, you said it all. Let's hope this board is monitored by those that can change things and I would think that it is. In two years of following this board I am hard pushed to think of a single mechanical failure other than the recent post of WillW which is as yet not concluded. On the other hand there have been numerous non starts until the headlamp wires were jiggled, the sidestand switch cleaned, (better still disabled), the starter relay hit with a hammer and on and on they go. Minor in the grand scheme of things, incredibly irritating when you just want to be going somewhere. Nylon threads on the battery clamps plus everything else you list: very cheap and cost effective to fix - spot on!
I took mine in yesterday for some warranty issues. The main one was the battery cable/solenoid assembly. It was replaced by a completely different piece. I think this is the "upgrade". It sure is beefier looking. Someone is listening.
I took mine in yesterday for some warranty issues. The main one was the battery cable/solenoid assembly. It was replaced by a completely different piece. I think this is the "upgrade". It sure is beefier looking. Someone is listening.Dan
Hurrah Gentlemen!!! Picked up my Baby today ('twas Good Friday)...all seems well with the total warranty crankshaft positioner sensor (which is attatched to the stator as one unit) replaced within a working week.
They finally found the green connector for the diagnostic test and it said a fault in the throttle body unit. The amperage checked out to book specs so the dealer was going to put a new ecu unit to see if it ran right. They thought the "brains" weren't telling the engine when to correctly send the spark.
Having just gotten my C_5 I really hope the bike is more reliable than you would be led to believe reading some of these posts!
Well Crap! Took the baby for a ride this morning and about 3 miles of her running great, she just died like I hit the kill switch or turned the ignition off!!! No backfire this time, just died The kill switch works (no fuel pump singing with it off, turn it on and the pump sings like she should) Guess I'll call the dealer tomorrow when they open and probably make another 450 mile round trip. A little disheartening to say the least.
This sounds like the same problem I'm having. I've found that when I'm riding, as soon as I hear the sputtering noise if I pull in on the clutch a little and give it some throttle, it will keep running and not cut out.
Yeah, from what I have been told, once you get a diagnostic code it has to be cleared with a special computer or it will continue to read out the previous fault code. Unfortunately most dealers don't have one. They replaced the crankshaft positioner sensor which is a plug in unit attatched to the stator. They have all the parts assumed to be faulty for replacement so hopefully all will be well eventually. Just curious as to the culprit. I understand mechanical issues, but when it comes to electrics I'm at a loss. I'll keep you all posted on the outcome. Thanks again!