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Eagle56

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Royal Enfield 500
« on: March 29, 2015, 06:06:39 PM »
Hi
I'm on the process of changing bikes and looking at the royal Enfield classis or maybe Electra.

I would like to tinker and make some improvements for drivability with some motorway riding in mind

What would be best for this cab or EFI ?
I see there are kits for both but not any re fuelers for the efi.

Any advice would be extremely useful

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 12:42:17 PM »
A little more clarification might help.
Are you talking about new bikes, or old models?
Are you in the US?
The "classic" and "electra" names are confusing because there are several different models in the US and India that use those names, but are very different machines.

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 05:08:53 PM »
It really is confusing isn't it? Try getting involved in a conversation about Royal Enfield's branded as Indians for a "who is on first" situation

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 05:51:37 PM »
I would be looking at the UCE engine with disc brake

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 07:20:54 PM »
I would be looking at the UCE engine with disc brake

They are all the same, as far as the engine is concerned. No difference.
All US UCE models are EFI. No carbs here.
Basically, you pick the style you like. All the rest is the same.

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 04:50:30 PM »
Which is more tuneable the UCE
Or the carbed pre UCE engine.

For the carbed version up rated carbs are available to
improve the fuel/air ratio after an exhaust and filter is added

How is the EFI changable to suite these bolt ons

« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 04:53:01 PM by Eagle56 »

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 05:44:07 PM »

Which is more tuneable the UCE
Or the carbed pre UCE engine.

For the carbed version up rated carbs are available to
improve the fuel/air ratio after an exhaust and filter is added

How is the EFI changable to suite these bolt ons

EFI can be tuned with a Power Commander or other similar ECU modification and a computer with the proper software.

If you want power upgrades, the old Iron Barrel 500/535 can produce more power than any other kind of Enfield single, if it is properly modified.  However, the old ones require the most money put into them, because the bottom end can't handle any extra power unless heavily modified.

The carburetor is not real high on the scale of importance in this whole scheme of things. There are many other things that are a lot more important. You could change the carb to a bigger one, and gain nothing, or even lose power.

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 06:53:36 PM »
Thanx

All I would add is free flowing exhaust
And possibly a larger front sprocket.
In harley terms a stage 1

Your advice/information was very helpful
UCE may be the way forward for me, I'm looking for at least 65mph cruising speed if that's feasibly possibly

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 09:11:50 PM »
65 is possible.
Don't cruise too long at anything faster than that.

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Re: Royal Enfield 500
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 11:05:38 PM »
65 is possible.
Don't cruise too long at anything faster than that.

+1  Opinions may vary and there have been a number of threads on this subject, but these bikes just don't fit that 65mph plus range very well in my opinion.  Guys do it, but honestly there are way better machines for that application.  These bikes seem to like to 50-55mph roads and will do those all day long without issue.  Once you creep into the 65-75 mph range you are really pushing this motor, modified or not.  A  guy I work with smoked his 2011 B5 riding I-90 at 65mph with bags and a backpack from Spokane to Seattle - about three hours in the motor started knocking and it was done.  On the up note, he rebuilt it and spent some quality time doing so and his bike runs like a Swiss watch now...he did end up buying a used Honda ST1100 for his long interstate touring rides.

Just my humble two cents
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