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Author Topic: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe  (Read 1674 times)

the_roadking

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Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« on: March 20, 2008, 10:24:35 AM »
Besides the price and chrome on the Deluxe, what are the diferences between theese models?
Specially the Classic and Euro Classic.

Bankerdanny

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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2008, 03:58:18 PM »
I'm not familiar with the Euro Classic, but the Classic and Deluxe are mechanically the same, the only difference is cosmetic stuff like the chrome and fancier gas tank.
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the_roadking

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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2008, 04:20:05 PM »
I'm not familiar with the Euro Classic, but the Classic and Deluxe are mechanically the same, the only difference is cosmetic stuff like the chrome and fancier gas tank.

Do they have electric start or kickstart only?
4 or 5 speeds?

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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2008, 04:31:33 PM »
All RE's have both electric and kick, you can't get kick only any more.

I don't know about the AVL and Electra, but on my cast iron '02 model the electric start is best left for emergencies (i.e. a quick restart at a stop light).

As far as I know they are all 5-speeds these days. But that is for the best. I have a 4-speed and the rube goldberg mechnism used to make it left foot shift makes for  imprecise shifting at best.

Others on the board who have the 5-speed have nothing but good things to say about it.
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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2008, 06:37:24 PM »
The thing is this: going thru RE oficial webpages I've found diferent models for diferent country. By ex. in Spain they only have efi models!
And the Classic and Euro Classic get confused, I can't tell wich is wich. But in Portugal RE sells both, with a diference of 500 between them.
The Euro Classic is the cheaper one, at 4526, them the Deluxe, (4706)  and then comes the Classic, at 5011.
Besides they sell the military model (4996), the sixty-5 (5156) and the Electra (5346).

I'm looking for a really classic model, posibly the cheaper one of them.
I like the Deluxe a lot, but I'm a bit afraid of the chrome quality.
The bike will "sleep" outside with a bike-cover" on. What do you think will be the best for me?
« Last Edit: March 20, 2008, 06:40:39 PM by the_roadking »

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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2008, 06:53:07 PM »
That's hard to say.

If you are US based then I wouldn't worry about what they have in Europe as you can't easily get one anyway.

My Enfield lives outsied under a good cover (I respect the CMW guys, but none of their covers are really suited to full time outside living).

I have what would be considered the Classic (although it's the cast iron version with a 4-speed). The chrome parts I have (bars, wheels, luggage rack) have held up fine over 2 winters of covered outdoor storage. The only rust I get is a small amount on the brake actuator arm on the hub.

I am adding chrome fenders to mine this spring. If you like the Deluxe look (and I do, especially the tank) then spend the extra and get one.

Here's mine with the cover on.

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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2008, 07:02:32 PM »
Now that I look at your profile I see that you are in Portugal. Are you near salt water? If so, you may have more to worry about regarding rust than I do here in Chicago, but regular cleaing and waxing should minimize corrosion.

I love my old style Bullet, but would have no problem buying the new injected version that they sell in Europe. Although the 2008 model is a stop gap with a new engine in the old frame. I think that in '09 Europe gets a new frame too which will find its way to the US later.

The carburated Enfield is probably easier to modify while the injected version is probably a bit more reliable and will be easier to just get on and ride with less of a learning curve.

I also like the disk brake on the more modern Enfields. you lose some of the classic look, but I think that the reliability and improved safety is worth it.
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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2008, 08:09:15 PM »

I don't know about the AVL and Electra, but on my cast iron '02 model the electric start is best left for emergencies (i.e. a quick restart at a stop light).

As far as I know they are all 5-speeds these days. But that is for the best. I have a 4-speed and the rube goldberg mechnism used to make it left foot shift makes for  imprecise shifting at best.

Others on the board who have the 5-speed have nothing but good things to say about it.

I too would like to re-iterate this.  The 4-speed left hand shift is iffy.  Sometimes they dont want to lock in, or you gotta work it.  I would sell my soul for a newer 5 speed model, and would recommend getting one of those if you could.

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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2008, 08:49:52 PM »
I actually have a 5-speed box that I picked up from ebay not knowing I couldn't just install on my 4-peed engine.

However, I think that the right shift conversion that CMW sells would let me use the box, so I may yet try the swap this summer.
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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2008, 10:23:01 PM »
I did that. Their kit is the same as the CMW conversion: new brake lever, inner and outer cover, lever, etc.
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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2008, 11:33:37 AM »
I live in a city between Lisbon and Sintra.
Lost of moist at night and early morning and the sea shore is 10 miles away.

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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2008, 02:08:45 PM »
I don't think that you will have any problems with chrome, RE India may not be up to Mercedes standards, but I think that with proper care it will hold up just fine. Because you live near the ocean you will just need to make sure that you keep everything waxed and polished.

Also, make sure that you buy a good quality vented cover so that moisture doesn't get trapped underneath it. They aren't very expensive, I paid about $70 for my current heavy duty vented waterproof canvas cover, about $10 more for  than I did for the silver Royal Enfield custom cover sold by our hosts.

If I stored my bike in a garage the CMW cover would be fine (although it's a tight fit with my luggage rack), but outdoors the heavier cover is better.
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Re: Classic, Euro Classic and Deluxe
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2008, 07:48:25 PM »
Thanks for your answer  ;D
I think I'll be able to keep the chrome in good conditions with lots of wd40, some wax and a good cover  8)