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Author Topic: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build  (Read 17366 times)

baird4444

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2012, 01:16:25 PM »
"Br Baird444 - That's a very generous offer. I myself will be passing, as I want a hard lockable pannier for adventure touring. However, maybe one of the other forum folks will take you up on it. "

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2012, 04:58:59 AM »
Baird4444 - Excellent! Glad someone picked them up. Maybe the lucky person will post a photo of them installed. :)
-Milk

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2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2012, 05:10:13 AM »
Br's Eamon and Jartist - hey, thats a good looking tire. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 3.5-19 is the same as 100/90-19. Which I am currently running front and rear (AM26's). And the price is nice, and I bet I could find those just about anywhere in the world. Hmmm....ok.

Excellent!..

I think that money spent on the 18/21 modification will be able to go elsewhere now. Cool.

I might still do the 21" trials front mudguard, just to increase space between tire and mudguard. We'll see.

Thanks!
-Milk

2003 Royal Enfield Military
2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2012, 05:23:47 AM »
Alright....handlebars. Out with the old:




And in with the new:




Side by side:



So, obviously these bars are a bit wider. I'm happy to report all controls were able to be reused without new cables, except for the decompressor cable. It came up short. So I deleted it:



I can just push in the decomp with a gloved finger when restarting warm. I've seen someone on here who made a cute little button to push it with...might do something like that. However, it's perfectly functional as is.

I also deleted the clutch switch which was apparently something to do with a starter kill or something. I guess it was probably to make me have to have the clutch in to use the starter like a car. However, my starter is long gone. And this wiring and switch was useless.....so its out of here!


And a look with my new tank bag. It looks a bit out of place, but I'm gonna keep using it since it carries a few water bottles easily. It also has a phone pocket, and I will be hooking up a charger outlet to where I could charge while riding. Cool.


Took it for a spin tonight. I like the more agressive riding stance. And i never realized how the old bars gave a little until I put on a set of reinforced bars like this. Real positive control improvements. I feel more comfortable pushing and leaning into turns now. Feel like I have much more control. However, clutch operation created some stress in my left wrist. Gonna try rolling them towards me a bit to see if that helps. I'm betting its going to be risers as well. Good note is, I can stand on the pegs and still hold the bars easily, for some mild off road riding.

Thanks all. Be safe.

« Last Edit: August 29, 2013, 07:02:46 PM by noisymilk »
-Milk

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2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2012, 08:07:07 PM »
Howdy!

Think I found my solution to the "cut the fender/move the brake lights" issue. From superbrightleds.com.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&category=TRUCK&Page2Disp=/specs/tlsr14a9_specs.htm

Trailer lights! I hadn't even thought of it, but its quite simple. One has a licence plate light already built in with the running lights. Brakes, turn signals, running lights. Split the wiring under the seat, build a bracket behind each pannier.

Voila! Cut the rear fender and tire can roll straight out.

Also, re: the Protapers above. I don't think I like the big logo all over my bike. Probably gonna delete that silly piece of foam and its cover.

Be safe all.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2012, 08:14:18 PM by noisymilk »
-Milk

2003 Royal Enfield Military
2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 01:15:13 AM »
I think the PROTAPER is utt bugly myself.

It kinda overpowers the important part: "ROYAL ENFIELD"
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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2012, 04:13:10 AM »
Br. Arizoni - I think I agree.

« Last Edit: August 29, 2013, 07:03:40 PM by noisymilk »
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2003 Royal Enfield Military
2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2012, 07:50:20 AM »
HI Milk !!

 My oldest boys trials bike has the 21" front /17" rear combo. It works. Increases stability and and no trace of twitchyness.

 Compared to new bikes its heavy for a trail/trials/enduro bike but its and animal.
The weight and torque combine to give it bite and make it very, very tractable  ;)

 On road cornering is still very good but just tad bit less flick-able compared to my Military unless you make up for it by a little extra input.

Bill Harris out rides me all the time with his 21"/17" Harris scrambler.


 About the pannier rattle, here's how I fixed mine. I split some rubber tubing lengthwise, cut it to length(s) and put it over the top lips of the box body. The lids fit snug with no rattle.

 Little pads of black closed cell neoprene insulation foam between the pannier frame and the pannier box body's stops the rattle there too. A spot of contact cement will hold them in place better than friction alone  :P

 I had to run a bead of sealant along the vertical seam on the front of the left pannier box from top to bottom to keep the rain from being driven in.
I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2012, 06:31:26 PM »
Ice! So good to hear from you! Sorry so long to reply, I am stuck in chicago doing the Auto show here.

Hmmmm. Now I gotta think about the tires again. Hmmm. I have been taking my cues from pics of Bill Harris's bike. And also the orange one in the pics catalog. Sam something? I can't got look at it on my phone. But both look nice and strong. I wont be doing a trials or woodsman pipe, since I need my tool box and am mounting panniers.

Re: stock panniers. I think i'm still gonna ditch them. They just aren't robust enough in a getoff to where I think they would survive and be tractable while in some foreign country. I need indestructable. Which ammo cans are. It also gives me the opportunity to look into an entire rear subfram design. Might be redoing everything including how the seat mounts out of angle iron at this point. Still just daydreaming, but the cutting the fender thing is gonna happen. It just makes too much sense to be able to yank the back wheel with everything in situ.

I'm more focused on the wiring project at the moment. Since its one of the lower cost things I am doing. As soon as i'm on a real computer, I will be posting a very specific question which i'm hoping some electrical guru can answer for me.

Be safe pal! I might be up that way mid march for a vacation. First beer on me!
-Milk

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2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259

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Electrical question..... ?
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2012, 10:02:28 PM »
Alrighty guys, a question for you electrical guru's.....

I have attached the wiring diagram I am working off of to verify my bikes current wiring, and as a guide for the modifications i am going to do. So....

The parts I understand. Positive power leaves the battery, goes through fuse and keyswitch.....then to the minus side of ammeter. It then leaves the positive side of the ammeter and hits the voltage regulator (which burns off the alternator voltage overages in heat) and to power the rest of the systems. Now, that part I understand, and will be replicating when I switch the bike to higher output alternator and make the system all DC. The ammeter wants to measure the current draw of the whole system. The battery gets back charged from the alternator via the voltage ragulator which maintains a consistent (ish) voltage of the whole system, and the battery will get back charged through the ammeter if it is discharged enough to require it. Essentially the alternator and the battery behave as parallel power sources to all the other DC systems. Enough said. Understood.

I see that the ammeter has a node that is connected to Ground for obvious reasons...it is a circuit in and of itself and needs ground to perform its function. It uses a little voltage to run the ammeter.  However....the one I cannot understand.....

It appears that the grey wire also connects to the ground point of the ammeter. This grey wire carries Positive power to the running lights when the light switch is activated (I have deleted the jumper that made the running lights an all the time thing on this bike per the tons of other threads on this site). WHY? Why does the ammeter apparently see positive AND ground at the same node, which is apparently ground for the ammeter.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks so much. Be safe all.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 10:09:39 PM by noisymilk »
-Milk

2003 Royal Enfield Military
2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2012, 12:23:13 AM »
Your link isn't working for me.

I looked at a wiring diagram for the older RE's (US/Canada versions) and it made my head hurt.  I don't know if it is the same one you linked or not.

Basically, the ammeter measures the current draw from and to the positive terminal of your battery.

Because the ground is usually negative neither the "in" or "out" terminals of the ammeter should be connected to ground.

If there is a light bulb in the ammeter, it would require a ground connection so maybe that is what your seeing.
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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2012, 12:41:31 AM »
Br Arizoni,

Damn. I bet that's what it is. The backlight to the ammeter. And probably to the speedo as well. Because all these things would turn on with the running lights. Silly me.

Thanks. :)
-Milk

2003 Royal Enfield Military
2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2012, 12:52:10 AM »
Milk,

This link will take you to a very good article including  tire illustrations regarding dual sport tires.

   http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437898


I use the Conti TKC's,and discarded the 19" rear rim for a 18" unit in order to get a certain look I wanted.
Unfortunately, a 120mm tire will require minor modification of the RE swing arm in order to utilize the full
range of change adjustment,and  a 130 or 140 is out of the question unless another swing arm is used.

(Sam something with the orange one.)

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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2012, 02:37:33 AM »
The bars look good.
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Re: Milk's 03 Bullet dual sport build
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2012, 05:31:49 AM »
A photo for inspiration



I think that decides it. 40mm ammo cans it will be.
-Milk

2003 Royal Enfield Military
2009 Genuine Blackjack - MrsMilk's ride

I'm trying to make my Enfield an adventure machine:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,12951.0.html

Ever want to ride a scooter to Canada??
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690259