Author Topic: Forum - New Look (Read 2274 times)

Lwt Big Cheese · « **on:** May 15, 2012, 03:02:17 AM »

Ooo seems odd! I must have got used to all the red before.

TBH the blue doesn't stand out too much when I'm sneaking a look at work!

Still getting spam on here though.

JVS · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2012, 04:16:36 AM »

=O

Seems good. Might take a few days to get used to the new look.

Banner?

GlennF · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2012, 05:39:21 AM »

I miss the random bullet thumbnails.

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2012, 05:42:57 AM »

What's the karma bit on the left?

john hut · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2012, 06:40:53 AM »

Seems easier to read with the lighter background,but not yet found members rides or pictures posted but maybe thats work in progress...

ace.cafe · « **Reply #5 on:** May 15, 2012, 07:15:09 AM »

I liked the older site better.
It had pictures, and members rides and modifications photos to look at, and links to the Enfield Gear store, and links to the new models for sale, and The BUZZ, etc.
Now, it seems quite bare.

Chuck D · « **Reply #6 on:** May 15, 2012, 07:18:24 AM »

Great. Now it has the generic look of all the other forums. Is this what you were going for, Kevin?
Ditto on the random thumbnails.

HRAB · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2012, 08:06:07 AM »

I like the new look. It is cleaner and less cluttered.
jim

GreenRE · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2012, 09:22:50 AM »

It takes a bit to get used to....I do miss the links to the picture gallery and nfield gear. However, It does take up the hole screen on the computer now as opposed to the middle two thirds. So thats good.

The Garbone · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2012, 09:42:15 AM »

Testing..

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/D8A5it-R9rA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Do videos work?

It would appear not. Liked the old setup better if thats the case.

The Garbone · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2012, 09:48:43 AM »

OK, looked around a bit. New forum, now with twice as much spam.....

CMW-Rhett · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2012, 12:10:51 PM »

Quote from: The Garbone on May 15, 2012, 09:42:15 AM

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/D8A5it-R9rA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Do videos work?

It would appear not. Liked the old setup better if thats the case.

We can't allow direct use of the iframe tag but I can see if there's a way we can allow YouTube embeds through some other mechanism...

CMW-Rhett · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2012, 12:13:43 PM »

Quote from: The Garbone on May 15, 2012, 09:48:43 AM

OK, looked around a bit. New forum, now with twice as much spam.....

We did have quite a deluge of spam on here right after the upgrade while I was bringing the garden walls back up. Should be back to good now though. Use the "report post" function if you come across leftovers.

CMW-Rhett · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2012, 12:15:01 PM »

Quote from: GlennF on May 15, 2012, 05:39:21 AM

I miss the random bullet thumbnails.

The gallery and Member Rides are coming back soon. They needed a little extra rigging to play nicely with the new platform.

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2012, 12:38:33 PM »

Sorry Rhett should have posted this thread in Forum Improvement bit. Oh well.

Oh and as I'm mentioning over sights, is there a "Go Down" button to take you to the bottom of the thread?

single · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2012, 12:53:30 PM »

Uh....um.....

redcat · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2012, 04:08:41 PM »

The color is calmer and who could hate these guys

What does the Karma thing mean?

Arizoni · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2012, 04:30:13 PM »

I think a Karma is a woman who has children and likes Kars.

I can't afford to have another one and the one I do have isn't thrilled about getting an assistant.

I think I'll try to talk her into letting me get a Bikema instead.
-----------------
I know a lot of work went into building the new forum layout but so far I liked the older one better.
The direct links to the Nfieldgear store, Dealers, Bikes was handy to have. I'm sure they will come back in one form or another?

Added:

Lwt Big Cheese? Are you helping with this forum update?
I ask because that symbol that tells us new posts have been made sure looks like a Big Cheese to me.

CMW-Rhett · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2012, 06:18:52 PM »

Quote from: Lwt Big Cheese on May 15, 2012, 12:38:33 PM

Sorry Rhett should have posted this thread in Forum Improvement bit. Oh well.

No problemo. I'll move it over there.

Quote from: Lwt Big Cheese on May 15, 2012, 12:38:33 PM

Oh and as I'm mentioning over sights, is there a "Go Down" button to take you to the bottom of the thread?

I think there's an option for that. I'll see if I can find it and turn it on. If not, I'm sure we can add it. Did the old theme have a button for that?

luoma · « **Reply #19 on:** May 15, 2012, 07:25:12 PM »

Thought it was better before. Maybe its just me, but I thought this was the best looking forum on the web.

Kevin Mahoney · « **Reply #20 on:** May 15, 2012, 07:30:35 PM »

I am having trouble getting used to it also. Just figured out how to reply and am working on only seeing posts since my last sign in. Pictures etc. are in fact still a work in progress. Our hand was forced in that the we were on an old version and the new version has improved security and we could not keep the old format. There will be new features and I cannot articulate them but I am sure Rhett will. I don't know what the Karma thing is either

cochi · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2012, 08:29:11 PM »

I liked the old format, however, I also like way this new one greets you when you log on and tells what messages you have. I'm not a computer whiz, in fact I'm quite dense when it comes to these things. I had no idea that I had messages. Some of them quite old. I apologize for not getting back to those of you sent me these. cochi

GreenMachine · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2012, 08:45:20 PM »

i don't like this new forum layout..Looks like it did about 6 years ago..

baird4444 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2012, 09:13:21 PM »

WHY??

The old format was fine. You've got to remember that we are a bunch of guys running bikes that are a 50 year old design because we can; yes we prefer it.
If "New and improved" was always better Kevin would still be running a mental hospital.
just thinking out loud- Mike

Ice · « **Reply #24 on:** May 15, 2012, 09:44:07 PM »

Quote from: baird4444 on May 15, 2012, 09:13:21 PM

WHY??

The old format was fine. You've got to remember that we are a bunch of guys running bikes that are a 50 year old design because we can; yes we prefer it.
If "New and improved" was always better Kevin would still be running a mental hospital.
just thinking out loud- Mike

He's not ?

When did he step down as Admin ?

Eamon · « **Reply #25 on:** May 16, 2012, 12:57:53 AM »

What a whiny bunch of old grannies!

You'll get used to it.

I will say that it is much easier to read the new format on my Kindle Fire.

Eamon

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #26 on:** May 16, 2012, 01:54:09 AM »

Quote from: CMW-Rhett on May 15, 2012, 06:18:52 PM

No problemo. I'll move it over there.

I think there's an option for that. I'll see if I can find it and turn it on. If not, I'm sure we can add it. Did the old theme have a button for that?

No.

But it would be handy! It would save having to scroll for ages in the small window I use at work. I suppose I could wait until I get home to read the forum. But where's the fun in that?

pushrod · « **Reply #27 on:** May 16, 2012, 08:22:06 AM »

I liked the old one better but that's just me. How come it was changed? Sometimes change is good but change for the sake of change isn't always good.

The Garbone · « **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2012, 08:29:21 AM »

Being able to choose the skins would be nice. I miss the Enfield emblem from the old forum.

Ayers Garage · « **Reply #29 on:** May 16, 2012, 08:41:41 AM »

Why all the whining ?

When you come to the website, just hit the "Show unread posts since last visit" button at the top of the screen. That will give you everything that has happened since your last visit.

And a huge advantage of the new format is that you can view big pictures without having to scroll left and right due to the narrow old format.

It's worlds better to me.

singhg5 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 16, 2012, 09:06:31 AM »

I like the old format much better than this new hard to read, bland and very spread out format of long sentences spread over several inches making it difficult for eyes to trace the long lines and ultimately it becomes user unfriendly. This is like going to a huge store and getting lost in the isles and coming back without buying what you went in for !

The letters are pretty small.

This format

pushrod · « **Reply #31 on:** May 16, 2012, 09:16:45 AM »

And a huge advantage of the new format is that you can view big pictures without having to scroll left and right due to the narrow old format.

Uh, I have to scroll to see the large photo you just posted.

Ayers Garage · « **Reply #32 on:** May 16, 2012, 09:18:29 AM »

Quote from: pushrod on May 16, 2012, 09:16:45 AM

And a huge advantage of the new format is that you can view big pictures without having to scroll left and right due to the narrow old format.

Uh, I have to scroll to see the large photo you just posted.

What kind of device are you using to view the forum ?

I'm on a ton of forums and this new format is pretty standard for them across the various forums. It works pretty well and it is usually pretty secure against hackers.

GreenMachine · « **Reply #33 on:** May 16, 2012, 09:42:32 AM »

Okay and I figured it out...Just a wee bit confusing at first..I think my hand and click finger was just use to getting a certain position whereas it was just second nature.

..I see what u mean about the pics...Still thought the previous site had a bit of shine to it..Thanks.

Ayers Garage · « **Reply #34 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:00:16 AM »

After pushrod mentioned having to scroll my picture, I checked it on my laptop, kindle and iPhone. All show the entire picture without any undo manipulating.

pushrod · « **Reply #35 on:** May 16, 2012, 11:00:59 AM »

I'm using a pc, windows xp. I'll try it on my wifes laptop windows 7 and see if it's the same.

WillW · « **Reply #36 on:** May 16, 2012, 02:03:57 PM »

OK I admit it, I'm old and resistant to change. But who f*cked up my familiar comfortable hanging out place?
And why?
Reallly - why?

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #37 on:** May 16, 2012, 02:35:46 PM »

For me the pics on the old forum were a PITA.

I prefer this one.

See if we all like it after a month. Bet we do.

Ice · « **Reply #38 on:** May 16, 2012, 02:53:01 PM »

Quote from: WillW on May 16, 2012, 02:03:57 PM

OK I admit it, I'm old and resistant to change. But who f*cked up my familiar comfortable hanging out place?
And why?
Reallly - why?

The new format is more hacker and spammer resistant than the old format.

jdrouin · « **Reply #39 on:** May 16, 2012, 03:41:30 PM »

This is much cleaner design both graphically and typographically. Larger, thicker text. Easier to read. The colors and layout are sharper, though that's just my taste.

You'll get used to it, just like you got used to the old one. And I'm sure Rhett will figure out how to bring all the other goodies back.

elmagnifico · « **Reply #40 on:** May 16, 2012, 04:21:09 PM »

Except for the pictures I like the old one better.

CMW-Rhett · « **Reply #41 on:** May 16, 2012, 05:13:48 PM »

I'm thinking that we may, indeed, be able to offer a few options for the forum layout. I'll see what I can do to set one up that's somewhat similar the previous version.

For you naysayers - Other than general familiarity, what specifically do you miss from the old layout and what specifically do you dislike about the new one?

So far, one common point I'm hearing is that the new layout is too wide and that there are readability issues. Kind of funny... making the layout wider was the most common point of feedback we used to get on the old layout. I'll see if I can tune it a bit. There's room for compromise, methinks.

The Garbone · « **Reply #42 on:** May 16, 2012, 05:37:32 PM »

New format seems to work well on my Iphone. I do seem to need to log in every time I switch machines, my assumption is that a login is now tied to your mac address and not as much to a cookie. Not a bad thing I guess.

Is the guy with a cane for spoilers? Or do you need to be logged in to see it?

The new engine does seem nice.
Test of the cane thing....

singhg5 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 16, 2012, 06:22:37 PM »

Quote from: CMW-Rhett on May 16, 2012, 05:13:48 PM

I'm thinking that we may, indeed, be able to offer a few options for the forum layout. I'll see what I can do to set one up that's somewhat similar the previous version.

For you naysayers - Other than general familiarity, what specifically do you miss from the old layout and what specifically do you dislike about the new one?

So far, one common point I'm hearing is that the new layout is too wide and that there are readability issues. Kind of funny... making the layout wider was the most common point of feedback we used to get on the old layout. I'll see if I can tune it a bit. There's room for compromise, methinks.

1. The new font Verdana is harder to read than older Tahoma font - even Calibri 11 is better than this new font.

2. Way too long sentence lines, one looses track going from left to way out to exreme tright.

3. The text inside the Typing Box is much larger than text outside the box. If one wants to read and respond to another post, eyes have to constantly readjust to two widely different sizes - one inside the box and one outside. Not a smooth transition.

4. Copy a post, and paste it on a new page (of word document), and try to read - see how horrible is the layout. The name of user, symbol, karma, mail icon, other icons, each takes up one line then alternating space, so the whole page from top to bottom is filled with these symbols from top to bottom before reaching body of text ! Once you reach text, the user name is out of view, so you lose the relationship between author and at least first few lines of the post.

The Garbone · « **Reply #44 on:** May 16, 2012, 06:27:26 PM »

In the compose screen the last block after the guy with a cane is toggle view, It adjusts the fonts to the out of compose view I think.

Font should be a skin option IMO..

scoTTy · « **Reply #45 on:** May 16, 2012, 07:37:59 PM »

blue? mines black and white and what i guess are folders look like swiss cheese... stupid old Apple Mac

the new icons are cooL

er, and if you type slow like me, because of arthritic fingers, your session time runs out..

try again....

Arizoni · « **Reply #46 on:** May 17, 2012, 12:14:55 AM »

I agree that the quick reply and for that matter the preview boxes both have very large type on my computer screen.
This makes it difficult, especially in the Quick Reply, to see more than two lines at a time.

I notice that in the preview box I can see 6 lines which is better but perhaps the type size in both boxes could be made to look slightly smaller?

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #47 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:54 AM »

Mine was blue and fitted in with the microshite windows, but it's B&W now.

pushrod · « **Reply #48 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:35:09 AM »

I have to log in each and every time I visit the site.

GreenMachine · « **Reply #49 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:41:47 AM »

I have had to log in everytime too..New software, probably some bugs to works out...Overall It seems to works fine but it does look very Generic in layout...Probably better for supporting the mobile devices that people run around with today...Think of it this way, the IT Admin guy is working for his money this month

..

pushrod · « **Reply #50 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:24:58 AM »

Yeah, I shouldn't complain. When it comes to puters I'm as dumb as a rock. This is a great forum. I'm gonna try and post a photo of my one of my bikes to see if I can do it lol.

barenekd · « **Reply #51 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:50:45 AM »

I would like the smaller screen back. This one requires far too much scrolling around, especially when trying to post something and you have to scroll up and down to edit anything, then scoll again to post it. Waaay too much scrolling required.
I'm still scrolling
to get
to the
post button

Bare
Now I have to scroll up to see how many mistypes I have.
Ha!
Fixed a
few,
now to scroll to
the
Post button

Ice · « **Reply #52 on:** May 17, 2012, 01:36:44 PM »

The look is different but the basic function is the same for me so I can deal with it.

I hope a future improvements lets me choose background colors like the old red.

Its gray sky's here for 6-9 months out of the year so the current gray I have on my screen is my last choice.

john hut · « **Reply #53 on:** May 17, 2012, 04:29:57 PM »

Great picture Pushrod , good size,.maybe the website is fitting in the pictures better........

john hut · « **Reply #54 on:** May 17, 2012, 04:33:58 PM »

Quote from: pushrod on May 17, 2012, 09:35:09 AM

I have to log in each and every time I visit the site.

Plus 1

Arizoni · « **Reply #55 on:** May 17, 2012, 04:55:32 PM »

For the record, each morning I have to log into the site but if I leave and come back later in the day I'm still logged in. I do not officially log out during the day or in the evening. I just go to other sites.
It appears the forums server resets itself each night and forgets who was here the previous day.

Eamon · « **Reply #56 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:52:26 PM »

Quote from: Arizoni on May 17, 2012, 04:55:32 PM

For the record, each morning I have to log into the site but if I leave and come back later in the day I'm still logged in. I do not officially log out during the day or in the evening. I just go to other sites.
It appears the forums server resets itself each night and forgets who was here the previous day.

Weird... I had to login the first time I saw the new forum , but it has kept me logged in ever since.

Eamon

singhg5 · « **Reply #57 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:00:35 PM »

Quote from: GreenMachine on May 17, 2012, 09:41:47 AM

I have had to log in everytime too...

@Greenmachine:

There are two places for LOG IN that provide slightly different settings.

1. On top right - 'Welcome Guest'

2. On the black bar that has 'Home' 'Help'.......'Calendar' 'LOGIN'

If you click on 2nd option, a small window opens that allows you to set 'How many minutes to stay logged' or 'Always stay logged on'.

GSS · « **Reply #58 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:13:23 PM »

Rhett and Kevin,
The biggest issue I have is with the new dark grey font color against a light grey background. I would respectfully request that the font color be changed back to black.

It is definitely easier to read black on white font, especially on a tiny cell phone screen or on an iPad in bright light.

GSS

n1acguy · « **Reply #59 on:** May 18, 2012, 02:43:02 AM »

I like the new look, but how do I get to the store?

GreenMachine · « **Reply #60 on:** May 18, 2012, 09:47:48 AM »

Singhg5: Thanks and no problems getting in today automatically..Must have logged in correctly yesterday. I went to the store yesterday, had to reverse engineer it

and go back to main website and select enfield gear..

Arizoni · « **Reply #61 on:** May 18, 2012, 11:59:53 PM »

Quote from: n1acguy on May 18, 2012, 02:43:02 AM

I like the new look, but how do I get to the store?

For the moment, the NfieldGear stores site is still running.
If you want to get to it, open this link in a new tab or a new window

http://nfieldgear.com/enfield-store/

Maturin · « **Reply #62 on:** May 20, 2012, 03:24:36 PM »

These Yankees must be totally broke. They can´t even afford colour anymore...

bullethead63 · « **Reply #63 on:** May 20, 2012, 06:40:30 PM »

Quote from: GlennF on May 15, 2012, 05:39:21 AM

I miss the random bullet thumbnails.

+1

Arizoni · « **Reply #64 on:** May 20, 2012, 09:19:32 PM »

Well, I'm hoping for the best but in the meantime I'm giving them some time to get to know the software and figure out how to put the good stuff back where it was.

Of course I'm guessing but I know I've installed stuff that is supposed to work first time out of the box and it only took me half a day to get the dam stuff to let my computer run, let alone run the new software.

Keeping my fingers crossed.
Jim

JVS · « **Reply #65 on:** May 21, 2012, 01:13:30 AM »

Woo!

<<< ^^^ Members' Rides is back

Ice · « **Reply #66 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:09:19 AM »

I like new site v1.1 way better than new site v1.0

THANK YOU RHETT !!!!

JVS · « **Reply #67 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:51:46 AM »

Quote from: Ice on May 21, 2012, 04:09:19 AM

I like new site v1.1 way better than new site v1.0

THANK YOU RHETT !!!!

I know, right! It might take a while for some older (not really age-wise lol) to get used to the new look. This new look is like the UCE block instead of the iron-barrel, still RE

Just saying

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #68 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:07:39 AM »

JVS You were doing so well until the Iron / AVL analogy...

There is only one Enfield and that is the Iron.

JVS · « **Reply #69 on:** May 30, 2012, 04:38:02 AM »

muahaha. Nope. My UCE is faster than your RE $:-\$

barenekd · « **Reply #70 on:** May 30, 2012, 11:48:15 AM »

Quote

JVS You were doing so well until the Iron / AVL analogy...
There is only one Enfield and that is the Iron.

Then, I supposed it has to be a 350!

Bare

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #71 on:** May 31, 2012, 02:20:18 AM »

Quote from: JVS on May 30, 2012, 04:38:02 AM

muahaha. Nope. My UCE is faster than your RE $:-\$

Faster! Who care's!! Class isn't measured in mph!!!

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #72 on:** May 31, 2012, 02:21:00 AM »

Quote from: barenekd on May 30, 2012, 11:48:15 AM

Then, I supposed it has to be a 350!
Bare

Oh yus! A 350.

JVS · « **Reply #73 on:** May 31, 2012, 03:44:55 AM »

Quote from: Lwt Big Cheese on May 31, 2012, 02:20:18 AM

Faster! Who care's!! Class isn't measured in mph!!!

ahaha. I have a B5, which resembles the older RE and most of its class!
So we are equal, sir.

Lwt Big Cheese · « **Reply #74 on:** June 01, 2012, 02:07:05 AM »

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