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Author Topic: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs  (Read 3739 times)

wildbill

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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2012, 11:35:19 PM »
just got an email from dave quinn - my 16kg/ shocks have been posted...........now the wait to get them to the land of oz :P
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2012, 11:48:41 PM »
That's like halfway around the world or something. :P

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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2012, 08:55:31 AM »
your right! i hope there not warn out by the time they arrive - down yonder.
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2012, 07:02:14 PM »
I did talk to them today to see what spring rate they send me. It is the 18 kg spring that works extremely well for my weight. It is on the lowest setting on the shock. Most of the other shocks I've gotten had 95 lb springs on them. However these are a bit shorter stroke and need to be a bit stiffer. He did give me the conversion factor from kg/cm to lbs/in as 5.56.
But at 165, I think the 16kg springs would suit you guys well.
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2012, 07:06:10 PM »
Thanks Bare, that's reassuring. I sent the shocks back today to get the 16kg springs fitted - they weren't keen to send me the springs to let me mess around with them myself. Health & safety gone mad again I daresay... ::)
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2012, 08:22:55 PM »
FWIW, I'm 225 and ride on the middle preload setting.  Maybe if I stop eating so many French fries I can ride on the lowest one day like Bare ;)

Also, these are progressive springs.  A few of the coils are wrapped closer together than the rest just like on the stockers.  The closer wrapped section is a bit softer which can make initial movement for small bumps easier but not bottom out on the big hits.  Somewhere on the Hagon site is says that their rating is an average for the entire progressive  spring.

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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2012, 06:06:31 AM »
I got the 16kg and put those in today. I think these will be perfect.....hopefully a break in the rain today so that I can take it out.

The 18 kg were way too stiff. Even jumping up and down on the seats on the stationary bike would cause virtually no compression of the 18 kg springs. The 16 on the other hand feel much better. I think this is going to do the trick.
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2012, 06:30:41 AM »
sounds good, keen to hear the end results. mine are in transit should arrive from the usa sometime this week
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2012, 04:44:26 PM »
I got the 16KG spring Hagons on yesterday, and first impressions on a 30 mile run are that they're just fine. I can bounce the bike a bit on the springs at a standstill, and the handling & damping on the road are good. I left them on the softest setting but will try the middle setting later today just out of curiousity.
Glad I didn't go for the 18kg, I think they'd still have been too hard.
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2012, 06:10:57 PM »
Update - they're good on the middle setting too. I hammered it a bit this time and took in all the local bumpy curves where the bike usually gets a bit twitchy at speed. These Hagons really are good and the bike feels way more planted when pushed hard.
I'm now even more impressed with the way this bike handles, and it's exactly the right size & weight for me. Doesn't vibrate either, it never has. I took it up to around 85mph (indicated..) and still pretty smooth.
OK - I admit it.....it's a keeper...... ;) 8)
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2012, 06:24:37 PM »
Awesome!  I'm glad you're enjoying them and it's great that the community now has another data point on weight/springs.

Scott

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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2012, 06:31:33 PM »
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Also, these are progressive springs.  A few of the coils are wrapped closer together than the rest just like on the stockers.  The closer wrapped section is a bit softer which can make initial movement for small bumps easier but not bottom out on the big hits

Actually the way the springs use the same wire all the way through. The way they work progressively is by allowing the closer wound spring section to close up and effectively shorten the remaining spring to stiffen up as their effective length is reduced. The shorter the wire, the more resistance there is.
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2012, 06:49:19 PM »
Awesome!  I'm glad you're enjoying them and it's great that the community now has another data point on weight/springs.

I wonder if anyone up in my region of the weight scale (over 250#) has a set, or has an idea of what weight of springs they'd wind up with...  I'm thinking the hundred-pound springs may be a bit too light for me (approaching 20 stone - and you people think "pounds" is a ridiculous unit of measurement?)...
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2012, 06:58:28 PM »
Rigger, Scott is 225lb (16 stone) and is happy with the 18kg springs, so I should think you ought to be easily ok with the 20 kg springs. If you phone or email Hagon they'll be able to advise you.
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Re: hagon twin shocks with 16kg/90lb springs
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2012, 11:45:33 PM »
Scott's in the mid range of the settings at 225 on 18 lb springs. Or you should easily fall into the 20 lbs ones, or all the way compressed 18 pounders. As WillW says, call Dave Quinn, they'll ask you  about your riding habits and weight and fix you up properly. They actually only take phone orders, so they get it right the first time.
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