Throttle Cable, where to go from here

[easy-v]

Hey all,

I have a 2003 Bullet 500es, Electric + Kickstart

So while starting the bike after a bit of riding the other day, I must've flooded the engine after some failures. That's when I noticed the throttle assembly pulled in much of the cable, and wasn't snapping back. Anyways, today I could start it again. This time I had to disassemble the throttle housing and take out the cable. Now i can start it (only with kickstart) and rev by pulling the throttle cable manually outside of the housing.

So here are pics of the cable. A couple questions -

1) I'm not certain but is there a piece missing that clamps around the end of the cable for the snap back action, but stays on the outside of the assembly? I marked an arrow in Pic A..

If that's the case, can I just get that clamp piece separate and re-attach? Or does this need an entire throttle cable replacement?

2) If entire cable replacement, is this something I can do on my own. I've never even taken the tank off before..

3) In pic B, i'm pulling the cable while the engine is running to show the health of it here for more visual info. Not sure if this looks too chewed up to you all (?)

Any suggestions on where to go from here would be great..

Thanks
Vishal

[ERC]

You don't need to take the tank off just undo it in the back and lift it up. You need a new cable and a ferrule for the twist part I believe.Depending which twist grip you have.  ERC

[Ice]

Here's a simple and no cost trick we "invented" as kids.
Re route all the cables for ease of replacement.

 When one brakes its a simple matter to lay the ends of the old and new cables side by side and overlapping a few inches then wrap them together tightly with electrical tape and pull the new one in while pulling the old one out.

 Testing the pull through method at home (where the tools are  ) will reveal any snags and tell you if any routing adjustments need to be made.

[typan]

There's some serious twisting of the cable there ! Always try to find the straightest route for cables, that goes for any of them. The headlight is not the best route, it's also a good idea to fasten a new second cable to the fist, for when one snaps, and it will !  Then you have no routing problems and if out on the road, you can be on your way in no time.

[barenekd]

Any time any cable starts to fray like that, one strand is sufficient, it is due for immediate replacement. If it hangs up, particularly a throttle cable, it can cause life altering results. When a cable starts to feel stiff or sticky, find out why!
Bare

[neil]

Hi Vishal:
By the look of your cable you are in need of a  replacement.Remove the old one by carefully noting it's route from the throttle grip to the top of the carb. Be sure there is no sharp bends when routing the new one. Yours looks badly twisted and thats what caused it to fail. Secondly be sure to lube the replacement so it will allow the cable to slide easily inside the cable sheath. Don't try to fix or nurse along the one in your photos. I replaced mine and it's not hard to do.

Neil and Buzzy the Bullet.   

[easy-v]

Okay, thanks a lot for the advice guys. I'll order the cable and the ferrule then, and post on this thread if i have any issues along the way. Hopefully it'll go smoothly.

[easy-v]

In fact, i'll order two based on suggestions.

[easy-v]

Do you guys know if this would be the ferrule to get for mine?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-Triumph-Bonneville-Throttle-Ferrule-BSA-Norton-Enfield-Matchless-More-/330810798061?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d05dc2fed&vxp=mtr

[neil]

Looks like the right one.

[LarsBloodbeard]

I've heard of people putting a drop of silicone or other glue type stuff on the ferrule to keep it from falling out as easily.  I just check my cables once in a while and make sure they're tight enough that the ferrules won't fall out.

[baird4444]

just give it a wrap of eliktrickle tape to the casing..... will not be noticible and you will keep your ferrule.
               - Mike

[LarsBloodbeard]

Or this option:
http://nfieldgear.com/enfield-store/cable-clip-set.html

[LarsBloodbeard]

D'oh!  I lost my ferrule today too. 

Disconnected the cable and when I went to reconnect it was gone... searched the ground all around the bike.  The ferrule gnome must've taken it!

[easy-v]

Okay, newbie question coming up. I got the new cable. I screwed off the top part of the carb but am now scratching my head  and staring at this cable like a deer in headlights.

So, how do i take this end of the cable out of the carb? My inkling is to twist that gold plate buried inside and bend the cable so the ball end comes out from somewhere hopefully but am unsure. Thought i'd ask and search around first. And the spring seems to be locked in from the top and bottom.

Thanks
Vishal