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Author Topic: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5  (Read 4683 times)

barenekd

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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2012, 08:49:59 PM »
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Found a "big" socket set on Harbor Freight, but it's $60..

I got their big 3/4" socket set for $20.00, on sale from $25.00. It was full of big black ugly deep sockets. But it works well. A 21 pc set, it ran from 19-50MM and included a breaker bar, ratchet and extensions. Maybe they don't carry that one any more.
As I recall, the sprocket nut was 46mm. I know it was smaller than 48mm.
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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2012, 09:02:42 PM »
When I went to pull my countershaft sprocket , man was I surprised. I flattened out the tab washer and slipped over the nut the closest SAE socket I had to see how it fit. I gave it a slight  twist by hand and the nut started to spin ! I never even had a chance to use the leverage arsenal I had gathered. Mattsz, I wish you the same luck !
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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2012, 09:04:24 PM »
Mine was tight. I needed my fork tube breaker bar for it.
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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2012, 10:09:49 PM »
Wow, Jack!  The spec seems to be 80 NM, or 59 ft-lbs.  How did you tighten it back up again?

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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2012, 11:10:39 PM »
I waited till I had the chain on, stuck a piece of wood between the chain and the sprocket and torqued it down. A piece of cake !
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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2012, 01:17:56 AM »
46mm is the right size.  If all you had was a 48mm it would probably work though it's not a perfect fit.  Get a 46 if you can. Depending on the cost it might do yo get the set from HF.

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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2012, 01:59:22 AM »
I remember somebody mentioning using an SAE socket for this... so I did a little figuring:

46mm = 1.811 inches
1-13/16 inches = 1.813 inches

Prob'ly pretty close, huh?  2 thousandths?

Either way, I don't have a 1-13/16 inch socket either... but my handyman/auto-tech neighbor is likely to have one I could use.  I still might buy the set - I want sockets for the rear axle so's I can mount and adjust the chain.

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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2012, 08:15:37 PM »
Found this handy list of conversion charts - "Handy charts to find decimal equivalents, required torque values, wrench sizes and more..."

http://www.stanleyproto.com/default.asp?TYPE=STATICLEFT&PAGE=ConversionsCharts.htm&LEFT=left_ConversionsCharts.htm

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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2012, 08:47:34 PM »
That's a nice reference.

A word of caution about using the torque values they list.
They are for steel to steel assemblies without any lubrication on the threads.

If the threads are lubricated with oil or with a liberal coating of Loc-Tite (or equal) the value actually used should be the value given reduced about 30 percent.

If for instance the torque given is 18 ft/lbs (dry), if the threads are lubricated the value should be 18 -(.33 X 18) = 18 - 5.9 = 12.1 ft/lbs

If the steel screw or bolt is being threaded dry into a threaded dry aluminum hole the value given should be reduced about 30 percent (like the example above for lubricated steel assemblies).

If a lubricated (or liberally coated with Loc-Tite) steel screw or bolt is being threaded into a threaded aluminum hole the torque value they give should be reduced 50 percent.
For example if the given value is 18 ft/lbs, the lubricated threads should be torqued to 9 ft/lbs .
This will prevent ripping the aluminum threads out of the housing or aluminum part.
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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2012, 12:32:34 AM »
...I've ordered a chain, and a master link.  I'll either have a spare, or I won't!

Just a quick hijack to show everyone one of my pet peeves.  Please don't bother to reply; either ignore it or stew in your own juices about it as you wish...

Photo 1 shows the well-greased master link that came today via ups...

Photo 2 shows the box it came in...  16-1/2 x 12 x 7 inches...  :o

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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2012, 02:35:18 AM »
you know how fragile metal is.
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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2012, 12:35:40 AM »
Just ordered the "20 Piece 3/4" Jumbo Heavy Duty Metric Socket Set" from Harbor Freight.  It's "on sale" for $60, but I found a retailmenot.com coupon code that actually worked (88058583) for 20% off one item  8) , bringing the price down to $48, plus $7 shipping.  It's no $25, but it's the best I could find...

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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #57 on: December 25, 2012, 01:11:32 AM »
[*shrug*]
I just hit up the local pawn shop for a set of large-bore metric sockets...  $15, out the door.  Done and done.
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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #58 on: December 25, 2012, 03:40:35 AM »
Closest "local" pawn shop?  4 hours away...

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Re: best "0" ring chain or otherwise for the C5
« Reply #59 on: December 25, 2012, 03:41:57 AM »
Dunno what to tell ya....
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