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Author Topic: Chain Lube Tip  (Read 2001 times)

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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2013, 07:50:03 AM »
Webbikeworld.com only evaluated how they went on and what the label said was in them.  They didn't do long term tests to see how well they performed well as a lube.
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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2013, 12:20:33 PM »
That's my problem with reviews, they're mostly about how easy they go on and how much they fling.  They often get used for a year or so but it's just the user's subjective opinion at the end.  Vince's story carries a lot more weight IMO.

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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2013, 01:01:45 PM »
...... Modern chain lubes are thin enough to seep past the o-ring to replenish the grease in the bushings.........

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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2013, 01:05:28 PM »
 I tried tacky chain lubes several different times in the past and found the biggest problem with them is that they are tacky. 
 Tacky = holds on to every bit of road grit and makes a nice grinding paste that will not fling off.
 In my fleet of one year round ridden commuter Bullet the absolute best I ever got out of it's plain chain lubed with the tacky stuff was 2,000 miles.

 My usual chain maintenance regimen is wash and re lube the chain every Sunday. 

 

 

 
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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2013, 02:56:22 PM »
    Ice, you are right. Chain lube is tacky and will capture and hold grit. I find it better to have some lube with my grit, rather no lube at all. But the debate on this point has been loud and contentious since the beginning of time. Most of the grit will be on the outside. Wipe off excess grit before you lube so you don't carry grit into the bushings. My dirt bike chain was removed after every ride and cleaned in solvent before re-installing and lubing. My street bike isn't ridden in those conditions, so I just occasionally wipe it down with a rag soaked in WD-40.
     In other words, appropriate maintenance goes a long way. A good chain should last 10 to 15 thousand miles. On my XS-650 I replace the chain around 15 thousand miles. I'm on my second rear sprocket in 115,000 miles. It is just about due again.
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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2013, 12:31:47 AM »
 Today some good news !!

 DuPont returned my call to day and I had a nice conversation with the chemical guru on the other end of the line.

 Turns out Chain saver is indeed the new name for the old formula Multi-Use and still contains Molybdenum Disulphide and Calcium Sterate !!

 By law they only need to list the first five ingredients so that's what they did. Turns out the same marketing "geniuses" that decided to change the name also designed the new label.
 
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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2013, 03:17:30 AM »
    Ice, you are right. Chain lube is tacky and will capture and hold grit. I find it better to have some lube with my grit, rather no lube at all. But the debate on this point has been loud and contentious since the beginning of time. Most of the grit will be on the outside. Wipe off excess grit before you lube so you don't carry grit into the bushings. My dirt bike chain was removed after every ride and cleaned in solvent before re-installing and lubing. My street bike isn't ridden in those conditions, so I just occasionally wipe it down with a rag soaked in WD-40.
     In other words, appropriate maintenance goes a long way. A good chain should last 10 to 15 thousand miles. On my XS-650 I replace the chain around 15 thousand miles. I'm on my second rear sprocket in 105,000 miles. It is just about due again.

I'm not sure what to make of this.
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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2013, 04:42:35 AM »
I'm not sure what to make of this.

This is turning into an oil thread.  ::)
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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2013, 04:01:01 AM »
TRUST ME!  The Dupont product is not tacky, Really lubricates, but wont sling. I have used it for some years, & I Highly Recommend it.
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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2013, 06:51:03 AM »
I should clarify my earlier starements where I said dry lubes were tacky.  They go on wet and stick well to the chain, but are not tacky or wet feeling once they dry. They do not attract or hold dirt.  By tacky I just meant they stick to the chain well.

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Re: Chain Lube Tip
« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2013, 06:42:34 PM »
I should clarify my earlier starements where I said dry lubes were tacky.  They go on wet and stick well to the chain, but are not tacky or wet feeling once they dry. They do not attract or hold dirt.  By tacky I just meant they stick to the chain well.

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I've been using the Amsoil spray and everyone comments that I need to oil my chain.  I have them run finger on it and that shuts them up.  It's great for garage door opener chains too.
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