You can tell which Jew or Gypsy is who by their phone number? I did not know that... is it in the prefix or the suffix that is so telling?AgentX I think has explained it well enough. What has happend and not necessarily for the good, is the 24 hour and instant second news cycle. Once the talking heads and headline grabbing cable networks get a hold of an item like this issue, its completely overhyped and over exaggerated. I dont believe everything ghe govt has to say on may issues, but If it makes me feel safe, and I can walk the streets in some comfort of secruity, then do what's necessary..
So, you'd be in favor of complete tyranny and locking everybody away in a rubber room for the rest of your life, just in case it might make you feel "safe", right?Just how far would you let them go with this oppression?"Safe" from "whom", exactly?Who's protecting us from these spies, and Holder's "Fast and Furious" gun-running scam to the Mexican drug mobs, or the IRS political enemy targeting, or Hillary's secret arms deals in Benghazi with Al Quaeda, etc, etc?I'm not feeling very "safe". Not sure why you are.It appears to me that the ones that we need to be "safe" from are these reckless government jack-boots running rough-shod over the American people, based on some unfounded theory that any of it had anything to do with safety, which it does NOT and never did.You're witnessing Nazi Germany 1938 redux, and you are one of the ones cheering it on.
Ace,I hope to do business with you someday as a customer for parts etc. for my 56 RE, so don't hold it against me to disagree. Regarding that rubber roof... if the ones that are in it are planning on harming US citizens, then yes.The IRS issue-completely overblown. The right wing loyalists (Tea Party) who created tax shelters to shield campaign money were coming out of the woodwork right and left. The program was meant to determine of they were appropriate and spending the majority of their income on charity causes as the charter they completed. Hillary's secrets? your watching too much TV and not riding your MC
I hope to do business with you someday as a customer for parts etc. for my 56 RE, so don't hold it against me to disagree.Ace: Guess if u don't play ball. you lost a customer...Got to love it. IMO , this specific constitutional issue affects everyone regardless of political beliefs and required readdress by the Supreme court. .As it stands right now, even if the American people voted to dismantle this project, it's not going to happen .It will just blow away and you'll just have to be happy watching another episode of "Life in Florida" or American Idol . I would find the U.S government vs Snowden trail much more enlightening on cspan....
Regarding the matter of expectations of privacy, there is a clear line between privacy between individuals contracting with their service providers... The 4th Amendment clearly presents the requirements for specific items to be searched for, or seized, and that sufficient probable cause must be presented to a judge that he sees enough likelihood of a crime in progress that he okays the warrant. Just a general thing, like "I want to search the whole country and everybody in it, just because I want to do some giant fishing expedition", is not in the cards, and is entirely unconstitutional.
Apparently the ACLU is taking the Obama Admin to court re. this latest episode...Not sure if anything will come of this as the Patriot act trumps anything from the courts... On a side note, I never knew that Andrew Jackson made the decision to move the Indians east of the Mississippi which was overturned by Supreme Court Justice John Marshal who sided with the Cherokee nation. Jackson response was "Make him enforce it". The Indians were moved with no compensation for their land and this moment in U.S history is known as the "Trail of tears".