Author Topic: The All New Musket 998 is alive! First startup video is up! (Read 1163 times)

bulletwalla · « **on:** December 13, 2012, 05:03:49 PM »

HULLO there folks!
It's finally alive!
Take a look:
http://youtu.be/E1Y2BuZ9TBc
Sorry, couldn't have made it sooner, between the day-job and this, it's been 80hr weeks for most of this year, going nuts with gas fumes and shop coolant.
Many thanks to Tom and Chumma for their help in sorting out last minute tuning issues! The great chat with Tom gave me a *much better* understanding of intake cam timing. My approach was to get the cam-lobe peaks (max. lift point) correctly oriented, but stock cams have just enough variation that the moment it *opens* may be off by a tooth even if peak lift position is correct!
Just a quick note about the frame mod- this bike has a stretch of only 2.5", made possible by a custom curved downtube - wheelbase is approx. 56.5", only 1" longer than the Vincent.
Working on completing the rest of the bike, will have ride videos coming next.

Arizoni · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2012, 05:46:14 PM »

Beautiful machine and sounds great too!

ERC · « **Reply #2 on:** December 13, 2012, 07:43:43 PM »

Your one talented guy Aniket. ERC

ace.cafe · « **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2012, 09:04:34 AM »

Congrats, Aniket!
Glad to see and hear it running!

Chasfield · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2012, 04:51:47 AM »

That is the most compact and beautiful 1000cc motorcycle you will ever see.

Superb.

Mitch · « **Reply #5 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:05:07 PM »

WOW... That looks and sounds great! I bet that would break the TON at Bonneville! Mitch

mrunderhill1975a · « **Reply #6 on:** December 15, 2012, 04:27:29 PM »

The video almost makes me cry. It is one thing to think up a project and quite another to actually finish it.

edthetermite · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2012, 08:37:57 AM »

An impressive feat! That machine should be rather torquey I'm thinkin'.

bulletwalla · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2012, 11:32:30 AM »

Thank you so much for your kind words! I truly appreciate and value the encouragement and help I've received on this forum.
Now- to pain and suffering. the wiring on my test mule is driving me BATS! All sorts of murderously random cutting and splicing which is so confusing because I really can't tell which of it it came like that or was done by previous owners! The sealed beam headlight has a grey triangular rubber sealed connector and the wires from it don't look like anything on the diagrams. Same story with the alternator...red and black and whatnot end up with another different looking connector from which emerge the typical 2 violets and yellow and orange...took all weekend to sort it out

Close to taking the first spin round the parking lot, need a seat on there to avoid a burnt-out butt :-)
THanks again!

1 Thump · « **Reply #9 on:** December 25, 2012, 09:34:09 PM »

I will never afford this one : http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1947-Vincent-HRD-Series-B-Rapide-/330846962333?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item4d0804029d#ht_500wt_1182

....but the Musket Cannonball has me dreaming...

AgentX · « **Reply #10 on:** December 25, 2012, 11:22:54 PM »

You know, I wonder how well one of these would fit in the "Norley" Featherbed-style frames made for Sportster engines.... Hmmmm.

ace.cafe · « **Reply #11 on:** December 26, 2012, 05:50:35 AM »

Quote from: AgentX on December 25, 2012, 11:22:54 PM

You know, I wonder how well one of these would fit in the "Norley" Featherbed-style frames made for Sportster engines.... Hmmmm.

Not sure.
But the Vincent engine fit in the regular featherbed frame, with some special engine mounts added. Maybe this one might too.
The issue that I see is that this Musket has a wet sump with a prominent sump protrusion downward and toward the timing side. That isn't likely to fit down thru the frame cradle, and so that might cause the whole engine to need to sit higher. That could cause an issue with the fit.

cyrusb · « **Reply #12 on:** December 27, 2012, 02:37:16 PM »

Aniket, magnificent product and time well spent. Any idea when the cases will be available for sale? And have you thought about the price? Cheers, Cyrus.

bulletwalla · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2013, 07:15:34 PM »

Hi there Cyrus,
Many thanks and Happy New Year to everyone!
I can get rolling on making the first small test batch as soon as I've put some hard miles on it to ensure things are good. Ice on the roads and temps in the 20s are thwarting that plan as of now but seems like next week may see 40. Brief ride around the parking lot was an absolute blast- she surprised me! Pulled real hard right off idle, feels light, turned quick thanks to the shorter wheelbase, think this is as close to a Vince as my average ass will ever get.
Price...have to admit, have been deliberately avoiding/postponing discussing that issue. It is really tricky to figure out for a small niche product like this- that sweet spot where the maker can keep the business going, given the costs of low volume, made-to-order production, the time and effort invested and involved, yet also offer it at a price which the intended market will bear. Carberry were sadly forced to close their doors a few months ago. Even though this motor will be quite a bit lower in price, I have no illusions that life is unpredictable and it may or may not work out...hence I still haven't quit the day job :-)
If I have Kevin's permission and approval, this is a really good time for me to solicit the input of anyone on the forum who is seriously interested and could spare a few minutes and send me a private message here or through my website and let me know the ballpark they would be willing to play in. If asking for this input is not ok on the forum, please let me know, will gladly remove request.
Briefly, let's tentatively describe the kit as completely machined set of cases with main bearings installed, custom two-rod rebalanced and trued crank installed, cams installed and timed with dial indicator, pumps, ignition installed and timed- basically, the bottom end, ready to bolt on the top ends and trans. Plus, other random tidbits needed for the build.
This would be very useful in giving me some idea of what direction to take.
Many thanks in advance.
Aniket

Blltrdr · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2013, 09:36:07 PM »

Aniket I would believe that some of your sales would also include some custom builders. Most custom v-twin bikes use S&S motors. I would think that some builders are chopping at the bit for something unique. Pricing out your motor in comparison with a S&S twin would probably get you in the ballpark. On the S&S website they sell replacement parts. If you go to the vintage big twins in this section and click on lower ends you will find some pricing.

How much work to modify ones Bullet to accept this beautiful v-twin of yours?

Good luck with your pricing. I'm sure you will find that magic price point.

Brad

cyrusb · « **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2013, 01:27:50 PM »

I understand the pricing problem. Perhaps you could offer different stages of kits? For instance, I have a full machine shop and would only need the machined castings, crankpin, and other bespoke bits that are not stock RE. I would like to handle the frame mods myself. Just an idea, not having full knowlege of just how many RE parts are involved in this new model keeps it a guess. Anyway , theres my input.

cyrusb · « **Reply #16 on:** January 07, 2013, 11:31:13 AM »

Just as a starting point, Delkron sells harley big twin bare cases for $1100. These are fully cnc machined, no bearings. There are others out there on the web also if you wish to get an average. Not an absolute, but it should give you an idea of what the market will bear. Cheers, cyrus

AgentX · « **Reply #17 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:46:55 AM »

Quote from: ace.cafe on December 26, 2012, 05:50:35 AM

Not sure.
But the Vincent engine fit in the regular featherbed frame, with some special engine mounts added. Maybe this one might too.
The issue that I see is that this Musket has a wet sump with a prominent sump protrusion downward and toward the timing side. That isn't likely to fit down thru the frame cradle, and so that might cause the whole engine to need to sit higher. That could cause an issue with the fit.

Well, I sent an inquiry to the Santiago choppers guys, you know, since I suddenly find myself with an extra head and possibly an extra alloy barrel, and here's what he said:

hello

please contact jw cycle in england for that i'm not interested to do it to much headache for me
i'm sorry i do my work because i love it and i really don't like the royal enfield

alan

I guess you could buy the stock frame and have someone mod it. Odd, I thought he'd be more interested in something that was closer to the character of a classic brit bike than an Evo sportster.

1 Thump · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2013, 01:53:48 PM »

I dont blame him, for RE has earned a reputation. However, its pure ignorance to not know the difference etween a stock RE and what Aniket has created. I do hope that his prototype delivers in spades.

If you really want to go this route talk to the 'Rickman' people. They'd be a lot more interested.

ace.cafe · « **Reply #19 on:** January 08, 2013, 02:58:45 PM »

It will require a complete and built engine for the frame builder to have on hand for making the best frame and engine combo.

I'm thinking about some custom frames and bodywork down the road, but I have to get the motor stuff completed first. There's 3 different engine platforms we are working on right now.

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