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Author Topic: I found a near new 09 Bullet  (Read 1442 times)

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I found a near new 09 Bullet
« on: March 22, 2013, 11:04:12 PM »
Bike has 142 miles..is this the AVL engine? Could someone give me pros and cons of this bike in contrast to Iron Barrel Enfields? Durability, mileage, What might be a good price etc.    8)

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2013, 01:14:59 AM »
Most likely either an AVL or UCE
The AVL was imported to the states in '09 and the UCE was launched here in spring of the same year.

 Chances are super super duper slim that it could be an Iron Barrel.
Those were discontinued in late February 2008. I heard an unsubstantiated rumor only once of an I.B. titled as an '09

In summer of '09 I saw the I.B. the AVL and the UCE on the same showroom floor. It was cool.

To help you identify which engine powers it, here are some pics.


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Iron Barrel engine on the left and AVL on the right.




I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2013, 01:30:01 AM »
Thanks for the pics, Ice...To quote an older post of yours, which was a big help in case it IS an AVL:

Mmmmm,,,,AVL goodness 

 Shaft mounted rockers. Quench chamber head. CV carb. Alloy cylinder. Modern Piston. Full roller crank of pressed up construction with forged steel con rod riding on needle roller bearings on a 30 mm crank pin. Cams mounted on adjustable spindles for quieter operation. Gear type oil pumps (pumps over 4x the oil volume of Iron Barrel plunger pumps) Electronic Ignition. The engine was designed and built to cruise at 60-65 all day.

 Interestingly the AVL uses the same basic crank case castings as the Iron Barrel engine. With some machine work they could be interchanged.

 The 5 speed Iron Barrels and the AVL use the same transmission and clutch.
IIRC the UCE uses the I.B./AVL 5 speed internals but with the shafts stacked vertically instead of horizontally like the I.B. and AVL. BTW parts and service are still available and should be for a long time.

Disc brake kits are available last time I checked. I think it is a worthwhile mod.

 I own and ride and Iron Barrel and can report that my drum brakes are indeed  adequate within its envelope.
 
 I have test ridden a UCE and can report that the front disc brake on them is a definite improvement over the drum brakes. The disc set up offers a better lever feel, shorter stopping distance and are fade free.

 Since the Bullet in the pics is an AVL Classic (A.K.A. AVL Bullet) and not and ElectraX, all the accessories ( other than engine parts ) for an Iron Barrel Bullet will bolt right on.

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2013, 01:33:46 AM »
If you don't want it I call DIBBS !   ;)




The AVL's got Japanese Denso electrickuls and If I am not mistaken the disc brakes are by Brembo.
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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2013, 02:00:56 AM »
Would $2999 be a good price for this? Almost no miles..I wonder about it sitting for so long.

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2013, 02:11:16 AM »
Would $2999 be a good price for this? Almost no miles..I wonder about it sitting for so long.

It's junk. Send it to me and I'll see to it that is properly REcycled.  ;)  8)

 All kidding aside let me know if you decide to pass on it I'll take it.
Unless it was left outside with out cover 3k is a good deal IMHO.

 If you can get it for less by all means do so..that's just more funds available for gear and supplies.







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"TIMEX", the '06 Iron Barrel Military that takes me everywhere I want to go... and some places I shouldn't.

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 04:50:29 AM »
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All kidding aside let me know if you decide to pass on it I'll take it.
Unless it was left outside with out cover 3k is a good deal IMHO.

If in good shape, make sure to break it in.
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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 06:25:05 PM »
Turns out it is an AVL...Electric blue with chrome on fenders and tank..Front disk and 142 miles..Nice!

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2013, 09:03:51 PM »
Cool. Got any pics?
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I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 03:00:16 AM »
Like that chrome tank!
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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 04:08:13 AM »
Your bike is BEAUTIFUL ! Definately a keeper. Ride safe.
I would much rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow    Jack

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2013, 05:51:24 AM »
Thats a sweet deal !
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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2013, 03:01:49 AM »
I have an '09, 7500 miles so far, no major problems. Reliable daily rider. Study all the posts carefully, especially engine breathing. Would buy it again

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2013, 08:55:14 AM »
There's no reason why an AVL shouldn't see you through many miles.

Mods worth looking at are:
TCI Update (this should take some pressure off the sprag clutch)
PAV / Exhaust (this will improve the performance a little)
Rear Brake (this will take the spring out of the rear brake)
Oil Breather (this should prevent the collection of non-edible mayonaise)
REgards

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2013, 04:09:30 PM »
Back from vacation..trying to decide whether I want to buy a bike sight unseen..It does say Electra on the side covers if that makes a difference in specifications.

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2013, 04:50:09 PM »
Electra has disc front brake and a slightly different frame than the old Iron Barrel models.
The "AVL Classic" had drum front brake.
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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2013, 12:51:18 PM »
I contacted the dealer and will know more tomorrow...Ace, what is your opinion of the blueing on the head pipe? Or am I just being too critical?

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2013, 01:09:34 PM »
I contacted the dealer and will know more tomorrow...Ace, what is your opinion of the blueing on the head pipe? Or am I just being too critical?

The bluing on the pipe is some of the worst that I have ever seen.
It is in dire need of a proper tune up.
It is unlikely that it was seriously damaged internally in just 142 miles, even with bad enough tuning to blue the pipe like that.  But, it should be tuned correctly right away.
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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2013, 01:34:48 PM »
 
 Thanks, Ace. I really wonder if I'm being a PITA but I don't want, nor can afford a bad purchase. Thanks to all on the forum who have been patient with my questions. :)

I just found the pic shown below for $2500 with 900 miles. Again, quite far away.. I may just say the heck with it and get it shipped.

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2013, 01:27:46 AM »
That's it...I already let one get away..this one is still there at an attractive price. Who can recommend a reliable shipping firm for bikes. I can't take it anymore!! I need an Enfield!

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2013, 01:47:56 AM »
Don't forget that there are Iron Barrel models out there too.
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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2013, 02:01:30 AM »
There is actually a 2006 iron with 3700 miles near me for $2200

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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2013, 02:06:57 AM »
There is actually a 2006 iron with 3700 miles near me for $2200

That's your ticket.
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Re: I found a near new 09 Bullet
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2013, 02:19:13 PM »
Agree with Ace. Not a bad price. Have it checked out and buy it. A lot more Improvement and custom stuff out there for the Iron barrel than the Avl.   ERC
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