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Author Topic: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue  (Read 1803 times)

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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2013, 07:29:01 PM »
ERC...I'm going to keep trying to put some crc Electra cleaner in the tube an try to get it open...cause I hate to split the case just cause of that, that little piece that the tube goes into, what is it called? I can't find it on the computer... Do you know of a good service manual or CD for this motor I can buy that has good info an detail??

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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2013, 10:43:04 PM »
Is yours an early one where the oil filter screws into the side of the case below the fill and that has a kit to change it where the filter is in the timing chain cover? Or does it look like the picture i'll add, if it's like the picture the tube just mounts to the case on the inside. The manuals are all over Ebay, also if you put Royal Enfield service manual in google if you search enough you'll find one to download for a 700. They're all just reprints of original manuals. Have you looked at the parts diagrams on Hitchcocks site. They can be really helpfull.
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2013, 11:56:02 PM »
ERC...the one I'm working on is a 1955 super meteor,an the oil filter is in the timing cover below a plug an has a separate oil fill neck with a return tube
Inside, an that tube goes down into the side of the engine casing...I have tried for two days to unplug this oilway it is clogged in the little round thing in the side of the case, it comes apart, but u have to slit the block:( I would post pics but don't know how  ::)
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2013, 03:26:04 AM »
Does your motor look like the one in the picture? With the tube coming out where the oil fill neck bolts on.  ERC
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2013, 12:09:34 PM »
It has the bolt on oil fill neck yes... But down on the side of motor below where the neck bolts on there is a round thing that goes in the side of the motor that the little metal return oil tube comes from.

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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2013, 12:24:45 PM »
ERC.. Ok this is what is giving me my trouble that little round thing...thanks for taking the time to respond to my posts...
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2013, 12:53:24 PM »
I see what you have, originally the 4" filter fit in there and you'd take that off to access the filter. You also have a timing cover that has a filter in it. I have a brand new crankcase like that I think they made some way of eliminating the filter in the crankcase and just using the filter in the timing cover. It could be the filter is still in there and it's clogged. Let me check the pieces I have before you remove that big nut. Here's a picture of what it looks like.  ERC
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2013, 03:02:44 PM »
ERC... I can see down inside the tank, It has a lock nut on the inside, but no way to take it off from the outside  :-\ everything in timing cover is new all components including oil filter.

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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2013, 03:08:07 PM »
ERC... Here is what I found, this is what it looks like so I don't know if there is a way to unplug it, cause if air won't go through it oil isn't either....

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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2013, 05:05:17 PM »
Here's a picture of the pieces that I have. I bought these to put on my 54 which came with the filter. Got these to eliminate the filter there. I wonder if you could bend one of those ratchet wrenches to fit inside the oil fill opening. Because the nut is inside of the case to tighten it. Maybe you could just loosen it so you could eyeball it and clean it out. When I go home tonight I'll try to assemble it from the outside of the case. Before you mess with it wait till you hear from me that I could do it. Other than that the case will have to come apart.    ERC
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2013, 09:38:44 PM »
ERC...that's it, I was thinking of doing that but the metal tube is right in the way, I can just barely see the nut inside...wow that's great! I really appreciate your help... I do think its possible to get it loose enough to get air to go through...what size is the nut? So maybe if it works for you I will round up a wrench  ;D ;D
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2013, 10:17:07 PM »
I did it, put the complete assy. in place slipping it through oil fill hole. I didn't make up a wrench to tighten it. That could be tricky but not impossible. The nut is a locknut on the new assy. I have. The size of the nut is 3/8 BS, but a 15mm fits perfect. I'd get a couple of cheap ones and practice bending them to get it to fit. I'm positive it can be done with some patience. Here's a picture of the finished job minus tightening the nut.   ERC
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2013, 10:34:06 PM »
Well I'm going to try it...I think anything is possible if you try hard enough, do you have any parts for sale.. Lol, that's a nice engine case.

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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2013, 11:00:45 PM »
It's a 1954 and brand new. I rarely sell anything. Maybe when I'm forced into a nursing home. :P  Good luck I really think you can do it your only other option is a complete teardown.    ERC
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Re: 1955 super meteor return oil pump issue
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2013, 01:38:23 AM »
ERC...thank you very much for all the information, I'm going to start back in on it in a day or so...you are very important to all of us out here in the motorcycle world, you an Scottie have been great help for me an I really hope you guys keep up the good work for a long time to come... ;D