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GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« on: June 13, 2013, 10:43:04 AM »
Congratulations! I saw the great article on GHG and ScooterBob's C5 cafe racer build in the latest Cafe Racer Magazine last night!

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2013, 10:58:00 AM »
Congrats SB and GHG  :D and GSS for the heads up.
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 01:07:29 PM »
Congratulations! I saw the great article on GHG and ScooterBob's C5 cafe racer build in the latest Cafe Racer Magazine last night!





  WHAT ?!?! ... They did a write up ?   Thanks for the heads up GSS , you the man!   Guess i better go find a copy !  And let ScooterBob know. ...  Sent them some pix, but i really didn't hear much back from them? Pretty Cool !  Thanks !

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 02:31:39 PM »
Congrats Gashousegorilla & Scooterbob  :)
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 02:42:59 PM »
That's awesome!  I hope to someday soon have a bike featured in a magazine.  With any luck I'll be signing a lease for my new shop in the next week or 2 and be closer to making that happen.   

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2013, 04:25:19 PM »
Nicely done guys!  Way to show them up on their own half hearted attempt with the C5.  Now why isn't my latest issue on my doorstep yet?

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2013, 05:13:04 PM »
And where's mine? The magazine, that is!
Congrats, guys.
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2013, 05:44:54 PM »
Nicely done guys!  Way to show them up on their own half hearted attempt with the C5.  Now why isn't my latest issue on my doorstep yet?

Scott


   Well they made a fine looking machine, and my hats off to them.  But.....  :-X ;)    This is where the REal enfield community is and I think it extremely cool that some of you guys liked what we did with the bike.  Thanks guys... and thanks to Mike Seate and the staff at Cafe Racer, for still recognizing the little guys working at home, and under the radar.... The ones who made this latest cafe thing happen.  Lets hope this thing doesn't turn into a American Chopper type deal.... And it stays real !   Just got a picture text sent to me by my niece Erin (graphics),  , of the article.. reading it now....  pretty cool !  LOL !
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2013, 06:01:31 PM »
I'm sure they were under a tight budget and time constraint when they did their bike, and engine mods to the UCE aren't 'off the shelf' stuff you can just drop in.  Still, I read the article and their approach on the project seemed very generic and formulaic.  That said, if you handed me the keys to it I'd be the blur heading for the horizon.

I still think yours is way better Gorilla.

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2013, 07:23:15 PM »
I definitely prefer the SB/GHG rig over the C5 that the magazine did.
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2013, 10:04:28 PM »
I definitely prefer the SB/GHG rig over the C5 that the magazine did.
I'm sure they were under a tight budget and time constraint when they did their bike, and engine mods to the UCE aren't 'off the shelf' stuff you can just drop in.  Still, I read the article and their approach on the project seemed very generic and formulaic.  That said, if you handed me the keys to it I'd be the blur heading for the horizon.

I still think yours is way better Gorilla.

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Thanks for the nod boys, We appreciate that..... Yeah, took a little bit longer then theirs, But that's how it really is, as you both know, with pretty much untried things.  Very fun to do though. Great learning experience for me as well, with these bikes. ScooterBob is a great educator...and the best Mechanic I've ever met.  Ruined me for the old Japanese stuff !  Great bikes , but these  UCE's here got something about 'em.  More simple... more honest ?  A Well build motor.......









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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2013, 08:40:32 PM »
Congratulations GHG and Scooter Bob !!

I am looking forward to see the article and your Cafe Racer. Went to Barnes and Noble to get that magazine, but they have not yet received the current June issue of the magazine  :(.

I am sure it is a great machine with good looks and thump.

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2013, 03:15:58 AM »
  D'oh... I must have grabbed all the ones around here ! Sorry Singh, I believe Clark might have one or two left ?...  LOL !
 
Thank you Singh.  ;)  You could always stop by and see it for yourself, we'll go for a ride.....
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2013, 04:07:07 AM »
Mine arrived today, nice little piece about the bike.  Congrats again guys!

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2013, 05:47:40 AM »
I went looking for a copy but haven't found it yet.  I think ghg's bike is one of the coolest custom bikes ever as it has the personal owner's touches, kind of like reading a book that tell a story about the author.

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2013, 05:03:05 AM »
Here is a picture of the article in Cafe Racer - real good GHG !

To read it,
Bring cursor on picture -
Right Click and then Select 'Open Link in New Tab' -
Go to New Tab and there is the picture that can be Enlarged by bringing cursor on it (turns into + sign) and left click.
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2013, 05:18:44 AM »
Holy Shit!!!!!!  5000cc!!!!!!!
Tell me Gorilla, what IS your secret?    ;D

Seriously though, WAY cool.  Congrats on the feature!

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2013, 07:18:39 AM »
Only SB and GHG are entitled to a 5000cc Enfield haha
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2013, 12:24:04 PM »
Thanks guys - and THANKS Gashouse Gorilla for having faith in those wildly modified parts for the bike! The article was great - but skipped over the blood, sweat and tears that went into that bike - but the learning curve was outstanding! Gorilla's body, paint and fabrication are off the end of the chart for excellent - and I got to utilise a couple of years of experience in the engine machining biz as well as some old-fashioned tried and true racer-boy tricks. All said - I'm stunned at the result. The bike is WAY more than the sum total of its parts - it has SOUL! That machine is the difference between assembling a motorcycle - and BUILDING one .... with a #4 mill bastard file, a welder, a small lathe and a drill press (complete ScooterBob machine shop .... Hahaha!) It's amazing what a couple of Celtic boys can come up with in their spare time with a few junk parts .....  ;)
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2013, 04:01:07 PM »
Thanks guys - and THANKS Gashouse Gorilla for having faith in those wildly modified parts for the bike! The article was great - but skipped over the blood, sweat and tears that went into that bike - but the learning curve was outstanding! Gorilla's body, paint and fabrication are off the end of the chart for excellent - and I got to utilise a couple of years of experience in the engine machining biz as well as some old-fashioned tried and true racer-boy tricks. All said - I'm stunned at the result. The bike is WAY more than the sum total of its parts - it has SOUL! That machine is the difference between assembling a motorcycle - and BUILDING one .... with a #4 mill bastard file, a welder, a small lathe and a drill press (complete ScooterBob machine shop .... Hahaha!) It's amazing what a couple of Celtic boys can come up with in their spare time with a few junk parts .....  ;)


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Holy Shit!!!!!!  5000cc!!!!!!!
Tell me Gorilla, what IS your secret?    ;D

Seriously though, WAY cool.  Congrats on the feature!

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 Yeah...... still scratching my head about that one Scottie. Still working the math.....  LOL!  yeah, a few inconsistencies in the article for sure.  That would be 42 psi for the injectors.....  AND I did not realize I had a small alloy fender in the rear ? ???  The wobbles were fixed BEFORE we started the project. On the stock bike ,with the stock parts !!  Something all of us here could have clued them in on,  before they through a hole bunch of expensive suspension parts at it, on their project !  But I believe they were referring to the rear seat support. But it's all good......






  I think ghg's bike is one of the coolest custom bikes ever as it has the personal owner's touches, kind of like reading a book that tell a story about the author.


   WOW !  That's perfect I think... Thanks !  But I would just add, that it has the personal touches of the BUILDERS.... And I just have the privilege of  riding it.
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2013, 11:35:09 PM »
Congratulations to you both are in order from what I've heard.

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2013, 05:53:43 PM »
Fantastic ! The attention to detail is meticulous, and the personal touches show well. Its really beautifully done, MUCH better than the totally uninfomred buffoonery from the cafe racer guys.

Now, about the go-fast stuff. The last time you posted you were still tuning the PC-V and were unsure of the dyno numbers...All squared away on that?

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 09:13:44 PM »
Congratulations to you both are in order from what I've heard.

Cheers  :)


  Yes  thanks,I agree, more so to ScooterBob in this case though.  The performance is the difference here, I think.  Otherwise it might have just been a cool looking C-5, that didn't go anywhere.



 
Fantastic ! The attention to detail is meticulous, and the personal touches show well. Its really beautifully done, MUCH better than the totally uninfomred buffoonery from the cafe racer guys.

Now, about the go-fast stuff. The last time you posted you were still tuning the PC-V and were unsure of the dyno numbers...All squared away on that?


   Preciate that that 1 thump...... But we did have the luxury of time to get things right. And had a little more experience with these Bikes. Not everybody is an Enfield Nut like us......

  And yes, i think we were squared away with those numbers the last time ?  Back in April was it ? .... we were good with the Map and the Dyno numbers.  You always PLAY with these things, and I may during the course of the summer, wring out a little more? But right now it's good and I just want to ride and enjoy it for a bit..... well generally beat on it and have fun !  LOL ! 








   
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2013, 10:59:31 AM »
 I've never been a fan of the "If it don't go - chrome it!" school of thought. All of MY junk runs well .... but looks all sweaty and tattered .... It's NICE to have one under the belt that runs good AND looks like it belongs to someone besides Fred Sanford! Hahahaha!! It was fun to re-do some of the old school voodoo that I did years ago on my stuff to make it run better than all the boys with the fat wallets and no clue. Budget Engineering and Sweat Equity Company is alive and well ......  ::) ;D



  Yes  thanks,I agree, more so to ScooterBob in this case though.  The performance is the difference here, I think.  Otherwise it might have just been a cool looking C-5, that didn't go anywhere.





 

   




 
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2013, 02:55:08 PM »
Holy bejeezuz, guys!
Though the racer is not my style I am BLOWN AWAY at the result! Beautiful!
And congrats on the write-up even if they did botch the info!
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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2013, 09:19:18 PM »
  .... It's NICE to have one under the belt that runs good AND looks like it belongs to someone besides Fred Sanford! Hahahaha!!


   Welp..... technically you may not hold the titles?   But I don't thinks old Grady through these babies together !
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2013, 01:28:55 PM »
[quote author=gashousegorilla link=topic=16626.msg182558#msg182558 date=1371503624



 

   Preciate that that 1 thump...... But we did have the luxury of time to get things right. And had a little more experience with these Bikes. Not everybody is an Enfield Nut like us......

  And yes, i think we were squared away with those numbers the last time ?  Back in April was it ? .... we were good with the Map and the Dyno numbers.  You always PLAY with these things, and I may during the course of the summer, wring out a little more? But right now it's good and I just want to ride and enjoy it for a bit..... well generally beat on it and have fun !  LOL ! 








   

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So GHG, what are the numbers ? Did you really double the hp and torque as the magazine states?

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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2013, 07:12:39 PM »
Fantastic ! The attention to detail is meticulous, and the personal touches show well. Its really beautifully done, MUCH better than the totally uninfomred buffoonery from the cafe racer guys.

Now, about the go-fast stuff. The last time you posted you were still tuning the PC-V and were unsure of the dyno numbers...All squared away on that?


[quote author=gashousegorilla link=topic=16626.msg182558#msg182558 date=1371503624



 

  GHG, what are the numbers ? Did you really double the hp and torque as the magazine states?


    These are the Numbers  1Thump:

http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,16128.45.html


  We were done tuning the Bike ,in it's present form in early April.  With the PC-V .... not the Pc-3, as stated in the article. The Magazine was contacted in early LAST December. With some pics and a description, in hopes of consideration , that they would have the bike at their booth at the Javits show in NYC.... as I have been there before with them. As stated earlier in the thread, they did not contact me again since last December .  So no, we did not wind up doubling stock HP.... we went from a Stock 18 or 19 HP, to 29.50 hp, and 31.70 ft pds. With stock displacement, head work, cams, etc. Inside the stock redline/ limiter.  The stock 23 HP they mention in the article ?!   Seems a bit optimistic to me..... unless they are talking about BHP, not rear wheel HP ?    But either way, no we did not double stock out put. 
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Re: GHG and ScooterBob Cafe Racer
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2013, 08:06:05 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2013, 09:30:37 PM »

   Welp..... technically you may not hold the titles?   But I don't thinks old Grady through these babies together !
SB definitely has a nice bunch of bikes!  I think some group encouragement is needed to see a ScooterBob Cafe Customs in sunny MN.  I would be first in line for a custom engine job.
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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2013, 10:29:37 PM »
Thanks guys - and THANKS Gashouse Gorilla for having faith in those wildly modified parts for the bike! The article was great - but skipped over the blood, sweat and tears that went into that bike - but the learning curve was outstanding! Gorilla's body, paint and fabrication are off the end of the chart for excellent - and I got to utilise a couple of years of experience in the engine machining biz as well as some old-fashioned tried and true racer-boy tricks. All said - I'm stunned at the result. The bike is WAY more than the sum total of its parts - it has SOUL! That machine is the difference between assembling a motorcycle - and BUILDING one .... with a #4 mill bastard file, a welder, a small lathe and a drill press (complete ScooterBob machine shop .... Hahaha!) It's amazing what a couple of Celtic boys can come up with in their spare time with a few junk parts .....  ;)
Great job Scooterbob and GHG, both you crazy Celtic guys made one helluva cafe racer...Congrats again for an awesome and spectacular job.
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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2013, 03:24:01 AM »
SB definitely has a nice bunch of bikes!  I think some group encouragement is needed to see a ScooterBob Cafe Customs in sunny MN.  I would be first in line for a custom engine job.


  Your right !!  Come on ScooterBob !   Build GSS a motor !  IT would only take ,like half a day to through that head on, stick in them Cams, plug everything in, dump in the Map.... and Your done!   And well.... you know. All that head welding, shaping and grinding , cam carving and such. Be a snap I tell ya !  He...he..he  ;)   Keep on him GSS !



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Great job Scooterbob and GHG, both you crazy Celtic guys made one helluva cafe racer...Congrats again for an awesome and spectacular job.

    Yeah  Bulletman... LOL!   ;)
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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2013, 03:16:07 PM »


    So no, we did not wind up doubling stock HP.... we went from a Stock 18 or 19 HP, to 29.50 hp, and 31.70 ft pds. With stock displacement, head work, cams, etc. Inside the stock redline/ limiter.  The stock 23 HP they mention in the article ?!   Seems a bit optimistic to me..... unless they are talking about BHP, not rear wheel HP ?    But either way, no we did not double stock out put. 

Thats very impressive..You guys should be proud of yourself.

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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2013, 03:36:23 PM »
Thats very impressive..You guys should be proud of yourself.

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