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Author Topic: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.  (Read 627 times)

mplayle

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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2013, 01:16:05 PM »
It definitely sounds like he had his machine set wrong.  If he has been testing Harleys, then it was set for a 2 cylinder bike and would read 1/2 what your RE was running.  The idiot should have been able to tell that by just the sound of the revs (unless he is deaf).

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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2013, 01:21:47 PM »
5500rpm is correct, so I wasn't worried about 2600rpm.
the sound  from my bike wasnt a good one when the asshole was opening it up. It was screaming. I've ridden my bike 30000 ks in the last year with 2 big trips over 2500km over a few days on the highway  with constant 120kph. I've never heard it ring out like that, so I don't appreciate someone else fucking it for me. If anyone's gonna fuck it, it will be me. Not some moron working for government leaches.

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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2013, 01:30:57 PM »
I may be wrong here again...

See, anything over 3000RPM on an Enfield, without any load (stationary) does sound high and scary. I am sure that revving the engine quite a bit on no load, especially iron barrels, can lead to bent pushrods and what not, am I correct?

I think the same applies for our UCE. We know that revving an engine excessively can cause some sort of damage. But I think an Enfield engine is more susceptible to this said damage if being revved too high for no reason without load. Doesn't matter what the redline is, try revving your Enfield a bit high..as much as it sounds okay at decent revs. But at higher revs without any load is just not worth it. Just saying.
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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2013, 01:38:11 PM »
I agree. I certainly wouldn't do it to my own bike. Different story if it's a Ducati or something but not on the RE. 

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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2013, 02:17:04 PM »
... On the EPA form it says im allowed 100DB and that the inspector is to rev the engine to 2625RPM. Inspector had to hook the RPM meter to the spark plug somehow which he had some trouble doing.
He then got me to start the engine and he controlled the throttle. He revved it to the 2625rpm and this is about 75% of the max throttle. Ive never ever revved the bike up that much. It sounded bad. I told him i didnt want him doing this, but he says he was just going by what the EPA said to do.
Any ideas?

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I feel terminal now. The EPA has me on record, and supposedly any cop that scans my plate will see that im on the EPA list.
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EPA guy very likely did not set his tachometer right and must be running your bike at double rpms 2x2600 and reading it 2600  . 

My suggestion is to buy a tachometer and a decibel meter. You can test yourself.

To set the tachometer, read idle - it should be about 1000 rpm (If tachometer is reading about 500, set the tachometer again until it is about 1000 rpm). I have seen it happen when tachometer is set wrong.

As you know 2600 rpm is not high at all and OEM muffler is not loud, in fact the most muffled of all.

After you have tested, go back to EPA and show the result with your decibel meter. It will cost you a little bit but may be worth it to get your name off their list. See if you can borrow a tachometer / decibel meter from someone.

Tiny Tach is wireless, just wrap the wire around the spare plug cable and I have used that because of ease of installation. There are other cheaper ones also available.

http://tinytach.com/handheld.php

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/decibel-meter

PS - Riding at 30 mph in III gear is about 2600 rpm
     - Riding at 40 mph in IV gear is about 2600 rpm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7CYDNVlgdg

If you don't have tachometer, you can do the following. Put a piece of white tape on throttle grip and another piece on its plastic body. Draw lines with pen to mark idle and wide-open-throttle and line them up. Divide one of them into 4 parts. Go for a ride. When you ride at above speeds in above gears, just look at how much throttle is open to help you give some idea about position of the throttle at 2600 rpm. Most likely it is about 1/3 between idle and WOT positions.

It would be different when bike is standing but gives you upper limit of throttle movement to reach those rpms, when testing for decibels without tachometer.
 
JVS had another method to find rpms by recording sound waves - thumps. Send him a message or if he is reading, he can elaborate on that method.
 
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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2013, 02:55:07 PM »
+1.

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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2013, 04:36:46 PM »
Wow.  Just....  Wow.  I'm glad I live in an area where the Gummint doesn't feel the need to do vehicle "inspections"...
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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2013, 04:46:21 PM »
The guy probably had the tach set wrong, as for a twin, and he were actually turning 5300! RPM. It shouldn't take more than a small crack of throttle to get it to 2650.
I don't know that you have any recourse against the idiot, but you might mention it to his boss with your lawyer's phone number in hand!
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Re: EPA approved inspector ruined my bike testing it.
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2013, 05:45:49 PM »
The guy probably had the tach set wrong, as for a twin, and he were actually turning 5300! RPM. It shouldn't take more than a small crack of throttle to get it to 2650.
I don't know that you have any recourse against the idiot, but you might mention it to his boss with your lawyer's phone number in hand!
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            That seems to me a reasonable explanation because no way in the world is 2,600 "scary" or a screaming, banshee, engine-destroying noise from this motorcycle.

             On the other hand, if the idiot did indeed rev his bike to 5,200 (a guess) with no load on it he has every reason to be pissed off.
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