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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2013, 06:58:11 PM »
...and the weight will still break your back.  ;D

By the way, no problem here to get waves from HD folks. On the other hand, GS riders are too dignified to notice us, mere commoners.  :)
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2013, 08:52:39 PM »
Anyone know the sale units of HD in their home market?
I think I read somewhere that RE sells 100,000 units in their home market.
It would be interesting to see if RE outsells HD in respective home market sales.

HD makes more money of branded merchandise than they do off sales of motorcycles. I wonder if they are going to hit the Indian market up with their branded stuff to turn the riders into pirates?
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2013, 12:42:49 AM »
I see another frickin' bandana I'm gonna kill something!  :o
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2013, 12:45:21 AM »
I see another frickin' bandana I'm gonna kill something!  :o
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2013, 12:49:56 AM »
I wrote on another forum about this the other day.
I think H-D is trying to capture the clone market that the Japanese have owned for a few decades, by making a clone of their own, and putting their H-D name on it.
It makes sense. The clone market is pretty big, and H-D could make some money off of it. The Japanese have been cashing in pretty big off of clones for many years.
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2013, 05:14:50 AM »
Given that a lot of the 'stereotypical' HD riders consider the Sportster a 'girls' bike, I'm not sure that a smaller model will be accepted by the brotherhood. People who buy HD's do so for the image, and they may sneer at these entry level bikes.
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2013, 12:35:24 PM »
Given that a lot of the 'stereotypical' HD riders consider the Sportster a 'girls' bike, I'm not sure that a smaller model will be accepted by the brotherhood. People who buy HD's do so for the image, and they may sneer at these entry level bikes.

That's the point I was trying to get across earlier.

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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2013, 01:08:37 PM »
I agree with ACE, it's the clone market they are after. The Yamaha Bolt seems to be a direct competitor and HD may well do OK with it.
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2013, 01:30:26 PM »
Given that a lot of the 'stereotypical' HD riders consider the Sportster a 'girls' bike, I'm not sure that a smaller model will be accepted by the brotherhood. People who buy HD's do so for the image, and they may sneer at these entry level bikes.
Who's kidding who? To a greater or lesser degree, we're all in it for the image.
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2013, 02:05:59 PM »
Who's kidding who? To a greater or lesser degree, we're all in it for the image.

I ride 2 wheels because I like the freedom and wind blowing my face at 80mph.   ;D  Screw an image.

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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2013, 03:22:57 PM »
Anyone know the sale units of HD in their home market?
I think I read somewhere that RE sells 100,000 units in their home market.
It would be interesting to see if RE outsells HD in respective home market sales.


From the ride apart review, "Currently Harley dominates the U.S. market, making around 185,000 of the 452,000 motorcycles that were sold in the U.S. in 2012."

And if you look at the numbers coming out of India it looks like RE should be able to be getting close to that number with the new plant.  Granted, that is only the production number not home market sales but I think the vast majority of bikes produced in India stay in India.....

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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2013, 04:28:27 PM »
I'm surprised to see that Harley makes up such a huge chunk of the market, but that's sales, not necessarily bikes that I'll actually see on the road ;)

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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2013, 06:48:40 PM »
I'm surprised to see that Harley makes up such a huge chunk of the market, but that's sales, not necessarily bikes that I'll actually see on the road ;)
If you remove the dirt bikes from the totals, the percentage of HD's sales is even higher. 
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2013, 07:53:52 PM »
If anyone benefits from this, it'll be Indian Motorcycles.  They get to sit back, risk-free, and see how a smaller displacement American bike sells.  They haven't got the same "smaller bike = girl's bike" stigma.  And they have yet to release a new Scout in the market.  Harley's practically doing free demographic testing for them.
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Re: 500 cc Harley
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2013, 09:20:55 PM »
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I'm surprised to see that Harley makes up such a huge chunk of the market, but that's sales, not necessarily bikes that I'll actually see on the road ;)

I don't think a lot of Hardley buyers actually ride the things. Certainly not very much. It's just a status symbol to some.
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