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Phlakaton

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Installing new turn signals
« on: November 30, 2008, 01:22:21 AM »
Hi eveyone -

I just got my spiffy new turn signals.  I wanted to get some advice.   :)

1. How many of you mounted them on the rear fender - did you drill into the fender?  How did you approach the electrical routing in that case?

2. Front install... did you use the existing brackets the originals used?  Did you extend them at all and what did you use if you did?

3. The new ones have one wire with them... the old ones have two wire (the red and blue).  I'm assuming one might be a ground (blue)?  Does the red get hooked to my only one on the new signal?

I'm a clutz with anything ac/dc and electrical. 

Thank you for any info you can chuck my way!

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 02:35:06 AM »
On your old turn signals one wire is a power wire and one is a ground wire. Your new signals only have one wire - a power wire. The body of the turn signal acts as a ground.

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2008, 09:50:00 PM »
So- what should he (and I) do with the remaining wire?  Just tape the end and let it be?
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2008, 10:24:47 PM »
What I did was to solder the old ground wire to the inside of the new light, wouldn't work otherwise.

So- what should he (and I) do with the remaining wire?  Just tape the end and let it be?
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2008, 10:48:00 PM »
I just taped the extra wire back.
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2008, 04:15:36 AM »
That's a good idea- how did you work the wiring?  Add wire to come from down "there"?  Split the arness and bring it from under the fender?
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2008, 04:19:54 PM »
If you do a search under my name, I did a writeup on these mods.
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2008, 08:05:01 PM »
That's a good idea- how did you work the wiring?  Add wire to come from down "there"?  Split the arness and bring it from under the fender?

I split the harness and pulled the the wire back though and looped it out under the left side of the fender.  If you look close you can see where it loops to the base of the signal and also a blue crimp under the seat that I used to extend the right signal wire and lace it over. I used 3 zip ties to lace the right signal across on the seat bracket.  Hope this helps.

I would take a better picture but my camera is on the blink.
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 10:50:50 PM »
There is the option to put a eyelet connector on the ground wire and put that on the mounting post of the t-signal for a really good ground. ;D

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2009, 11:13:40 PM »
I had my signals mounted where the seat connected in the back. For x-mas I received saddle bags and they seem to conflict. These are the tan bags our host sells. Does anyone have the bullet headlights with the saddle bags? If so where are your lights mounted?

I saw one image where the lights were mounted at the bottom of the fender support, but I am not sure where to find a nice bracket.

Thanks for any feedback,
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 01:25:00 PM »
I need help.

I am trying to mount my indicators at the bottom of the fender support tube in the rear on my classic bullet. I have an L bracket and need some sort of anchor bolt to go into the tube. Much like the bar end mirrors use to keep them in place. I cannot find anything that will work.

I have tried several anchor bolts, but they do not work. The ones that end in a nice screw end are all for drywall and collapse in the tube. The ones I have seen for concrete end in a threaded end that would look like garbage.

I am half thinking of straightening the L bracket and using hose clamps, but I think that will look really bad.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I would especially appreciate direct links to something I could use, but new ideas are very welcome too.

Thanks,
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2009, 04:58:51 PM »
why don't you just mount them on the side of the taillight?

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2009, 05:25:14 PM »
I forgot to mention, I have the tombstone taillight so I cannot mount on the taillight itself.

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2009, 08:26:17 PM »
You could use a round rubberized clamp, I used them to attach my saddlebags to my racks.  You can get em at Ace hardware but you would have to run a separate ground per signal.   
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2009, 09:05:02 PM »
I need help.

I am trying to mount my indicators at the bottom of the fender support tube in the rear on my classic bullet. I have an L bracket and need some sort of anchor bolt to go into the tube. Much like the bar end mirrors use to keep them in place. I cannot find anything that will work.

Could you JB Weld a nut inside the tube?
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2009, 11:07:47 PM »
Great suggestions. Thank you.

I have not had good luck with JB Weld, but that gives me an idea: I am thinking about cutting off the rounded end of the rubber stopper, rubber cementing a nut to the end of the stopper, then rubber cementing the stopper in place, and running a screw through the hole in the stopper.

If that fails, then trying the rubberized hose clamps.

I really like the look of the indicators lower down and farther back.

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2009, 11:59:04 PM »
What about packing the tube full of plastic steel, then after it hardens drill and tap it and put the screw into that.  I think the only problem might be that the steel would slip out of the tube. 

As far as strength, it would hold, I believe, I once patched a hole boken into the case of a CB750 Honda that had been made when a chain let go.

Also, maybe you could put a piece of threaded rod coupler into the tube, then drill through the tube and coupler, perpendicular, and run a stainless bolt through, from inside to outside to hold it in place, and top it with a chrome acorn nut to dress it up.  Then you would have an internally threaded end on the tube
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2009, 02:10:58 AM »
Could you JB Weld a nut inside the tube?

Ahh, JB Weld, a man I can respect, and ugly but functional solution.

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2009, 12:27:07 AM »
I got them installed at the end of the fender supports and they look great there. That is where they belong for me.

I took a piece of rubber hose just smaller than the tube, and used a permatex super weather stripping cement and glued a nut to one end. I then glued the hose into the tube and let it dry. Took a small angle bracket from the hardware store, drilled out one of the holes to fit the indicator. Slipped a bolt up through the bracket and screwed it into the nut.

It seems solid,
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2009, 03:59:49 PM »
I like this idea - it's very similar to the bar end mirror setup. I'm going to try this and hopefully I won't mess up the grounding. Thanks for posting!

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2009, 06:05:53 PM »
I actually tried a number of anchor bolts thinking of the bar end mirrors and they didn't work for me. I believe the rubber hose will expand to help the glue, like the anchor bolts do.

After doing it, every time I see the indicators on the seat brackets I think they look like mouse ears.

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2009, 01:27:45 PM »
Probably way late! I bolted the bullet turn signals into the rear holes where the factory seat bolted on. I also installed the tombstone taillight. I then snipped a little hole in the harness underneath the left rear fender, just beside the new left signal location. I then took one bolt loose from the luggage rack and installed a wire clamp,  through which I ran the right signal wire, and re-installed the luggage rack bolt. This should keep the tire off the right signal wire. Work good...last long time.
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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2013, 04:34:19 AM »
hi, I need some help with my turn signal wiring in the back. I believe I'm getting a short to ground but I'm not sure why.

I got some enfield front brackets to use in the rear of my 2012 enfield. I have turn signals with two wires. I already successfully hooked them up in the front.

I attached the brackets to the same screw as the license plate is held onto and hooked the wires up. They both work while the back plate of the brake light box is off. When I attached the back plate the screws spark and the turn signals stop working. Obviously I'm creating some kind of short when I do this. I'm not an electrician. What is the answer to fix this?

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2013, 05:06:59 AM »
I figured it out. Turns out the wires in the back are marked backwards from the front, so I had the positive and ground reversed. Switched the wires and put the back cover back on and it works great.

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Re: Installing new turn signals
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2013, 10:07:57 PM »
This same wire reversal happened on the front turn signals of my 2011 G5.

Using the color of the wires insulation to determine whether it is the power lead or the ground lead can lead to problems on these RE's.
The only safe way to know if the wire is the power supply or the ground is to test it with a Volt/Ohm meter.
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