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UCE pricing announcement
« on: December 04, 2008, 07:55:11 PM »
OK, As promised you heard it here first. A good reason to be a member of the forum - inside information. Here is our pricing for 2009. These prices are MSRP and do NOT include shipping, set-up, taxes, bailout surcharges etc.) - just kidding about the surcharges
Bullet Classic with Lean-Burn engine - $5349
Bullet Deluxe with Lean- Burn engine - $5449
Bullet Military with Lean-Burn engine -  $5545
Bullet Electra with Lean-Burn engine -  $5745

Bullet Classic G-5 with UCE engine  -    $5995
Bullet Classic G-5 Deluxe with UCE  -    $6095
Bullet Classic C-5 with UCE engine  -    $6395

Notes: This will be the last year for the traditional Classics, Deluxes and Militaries. In 2010 we are currently scheduled to move to all UCE engines and the corresponding body styles. This will also be the last year for all drum brake bikes. The Electra, G-5 and C-5 all have a front disc brake which will become standard for all bikes in 2010.
If you want the traditional Royal Enfield this is the last year that they will be available, better get one before they are gone. As you can see there is also a substantial price difference between the Lean-Burn Bullets and the UCE Bullets.

The G-5 will get here sometime in the spring. It will initially be available as a Classic with solid paint and pinstriped fenders in Black and V. Green. The G-5 Deluxe will be available in Black and Red. The G-5 will not be available as a Military model initially.

The C-5 will be available in late spring (best case). It will be available in Turquoise, Red and Black.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 08:01:41 PM »
Sounds good.     ;D

decides not to mention that 2 or the  bikes in the pictures have kickstarts.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 08:10:22 PM »
I am not certain that the G-5 won't have a kickstart, I guess we'll have to see.

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 09:01:37 PM »
$6500 out the door for the model I want--SOLD!!  Let me get finances in order--anybody interested in a 2007 Harley-Davidson FXDB in excellent condition with many expensive extras?--only $13,000. :)  Must sell situation, so come one, come all!  (Also, the preference for kickstart means nothing to me --I'd rather push a button, if I can--I guess I'm just old and lazy!!)  8)
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 09:31:00 PM »
Kevin, you're doing a good job to make people happy!

Merry Christmas!
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 09:39:08 PM »
Do you take trade-ins? ;D
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2008, 09:42:49 PM »
We did the best we could on pricing. We are reducing our margin in hopes that it is a good seller.

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 09:56:24 PM »
So, your MSRP's come in under the shotgun estimates floating about.

At first blush I would have headed directly to the C-5 but now that I look at the pictures of the G-5, I'm not so sure.  I like the chromed tank and fenders and also the fork boots.

As the 70's were my formative years, bike-wise, I like the seat as well.  We are "spoiled for choice" as the British say.

The G has the thicker seat but the C has a sprung seat.  Wonder which, ultimately, has the best ride?

Assuming I still have a job this spring, I will have to check out the Georgia dealer.

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 10:54:46 PM »
Kevin, I thank you for the information and, moreover, for the very reasonable pricing for the 2009 bikes!  Lastly, I join Ace in wishing you, the CMW Family and all our forum colleagues:

A Very Merry Christmas and a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year!!!
Long live the Bullets and those who ride them!

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2008, 11:11:12 PM »
Wow, sounds like an extremely modest price increase for the UCE. I hope they sell like hotcakes for you - Merry Christmas to us all!

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2008, 12:37:53 AM »
I'm confused, will the C-5 be available with a dual seat?
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2008, 12:47:16 AM »
I'm confused, will the C-5 be available with a dual seat?

One of the photos from the show displayed the C5 with a pillion pad on it, so I think the answer would be "yes" in the sense of a pillion, but perhaps as an option.
I've never seen any photo of the C5 with one of the regular Bullet dual-seats.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2008, 01:48:52 AM »
I can't wait to see what that Military UCE will be like whenever it hits. I have this weird feeling we won't see it for like five years.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2008, 05:10:18 AM »
Wow, that's better than what I expected for prices. 

The angle and color of the G-5 photo above (the 2nd one) reminds me very much of the Yamaha SR500 advertisement that won me over in 1978. 

Is that photo the Deluxe G-5? 

Anyway, things look very promising.  Thanks Kevin.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2008, 03:31:13 PM »
As it stands the C-5 will come with a solo seat and a pillion seat which can be removed. There is a possibility that a dual seat will be an aftermarket option.

Yes that is the G-5 Deluxe, and I think we will have a Military by the end of 2009

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2008, 11:02:28 PM »
...  Yes that is the G-5 Deluxe, and I think we will have a Military by the end of 2009
Is the G-5 essentially the same as the UCE model that you brought to the campground that some of our forum members rode? 

Also, is the G-5 essentially an Electra with the UCE motor?

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2008, 01:21:32 AM »
I really fancy the UCE Classic, but am I alone in thinking the price is a bit too rich for a middleweight single, produced in a third world economy?  The much stronger US Dollar doesn't seem to have been reflected in the price to me.  I would have thought around 5 grand would have been about right, but i expect I'll be proven totally wrong.
  6 and a half-ish?  I would like one, but it's too rich for me.

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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2008, 02:16:09 AM »
I really fancy the UCE Classic, but am I alone in thinking the price is a bit too rich for a middleweight single, produced in a third world economy?  The much stronger US Dollar doesn't seem to have been reflected in the price to me.  I would have thought around 5 grand would have been about right, but i expect I'll be proven totally wrong.
  6 and a half-ish?  I would like one, but it's too rich for me.

The current bike is about 5 grand.  Seems to me it's not that much more money for an all new (and more modern) bike.  If the reliability and performance are as stated, it seems totally worth it to me.  It's only a $600 markup from the current lean-burn bike to the G5 Classic with the new motor and disc brake.  Another $400 gets you to the completely new C5 classic.  Do you have an Enfield now?  If so, how much did you pay for it?

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2008, 02:22:30 AM »
From what others paid last year , and the new technology you are getting next year, that sounds about right to me.
Some of your better dealers may be able to get more with prep, customer service, and add on 's,
I wish they were $1000  each ,so I could buy 2 or 3 more. ;)
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2008, 02:28:34 AM »
From what others paid last year , and the new technology you are getting next year, that sounds about right to me.
Some of your better dealers may be able to get more with prep, customer service, and add on 's,
I wish they were $1000  each ,so I could buy 2 or 3 more. ;)

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2008, 03:28:39 PM »
Just read an interesting post over at the Hitchcock's forum.

It was posted by a member there, that the new UCE has UK roots too, and was designed by Stuart McGuigan of Cranfield University. The same designer of the 5-speed gearbox in the Bullets.
So the new UCE Bullet is still "UK designed and Indian built".
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2008, 09:03:42 PM »
Ace, yes, this is very interesting and, as you pointed out, the RE Anglo-Indian connection is alive and well.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2008, 02:46:43 AM »
The G-5 is similar to the bike I brought to the campground. It is quite a bit more refined than the bike you rode. That bike was put together with parts from this and that and has been ridden for quite a while in Europe for testing. For example the foot pegs on the test bike we not placed properly at all.
  Stuart McGuigan from the UK was in fact the original designer of the engine. A lot of work was also done by Ricardo (sp? and "Engines Engineering" in Bologna as well as by a retired Honda engine designer. I saw the first prototype running at the factory several years ago and it has had a ton of development since. At that time it was a concept only.

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2008, 03:29:15 AM »
Kevin,

It looks like the G-5 will have a kickstart and the C-5 will not.  I like the righthand case and the valve covers on the C-5 but I like the kickstart on the G-5. 
Can You talk to Royal Enfield about putting the C-5 righthand case and valve covers on the G-5 bikes but with a kickstart.  The C-5 case looks like it has a place for a kickstart shaft to exit.  Also put a kickstart on the C-5 model.  This would be the changes I would like to see for the US market.  What do you think?   
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2008, 03:41:25 AM »
Bill,
I am afraid that the bikea are what they are. I am not totally sure myself that the G-5 will come with a Kick start when all is said and done.

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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2008, 10:54:32 PM »
A couple of questions on custom kits (alliteration is fun): I know it's a long shot, but will the current set of kits (continental, cafe, trials) be usable with the new Bullets, or will the body be too different?  And, assuming that the first question gets answered in the negative, will new custom kits be available, or will Bulleteers just have to buy a brand new bike in the style they want?

Guess I'm just concerned about the lack of tinker-ability of these UCE Bullets.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2008, 12:06:36 AM »
Bullet Bill,

UK offer two custom models.  The Trials and the Clubman.  I would think that the kits and or the components will be available here in the US, but if not, I think one could obtain them from Britain.   
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2008, 01:37:31 AM »
Hello all you Royal Enfield owners.  I have been looking at purchasing a Royal Enfield for some time, I was first drawn to them because of there looks.  How much different will these new bikes be from the "traditional" bikes. 

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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2008, 03:48:26 AM »
Hello all you Royal Enfield owners.  I have been looking at purchasing a Royal Enfield for some time, I was first drawn to them because of there looks.  How much different will these new bikes be from the "traditional" bikes. 
Although I'm not yet an RE owner, I think that what constitutes "traditional" all depends on where you start and stop the tradition. 

I admire the kick-start fanatics with their passion for the old ways.  But I'm a great fan of fuel injection.  It's greener, cleaner, and adaptable to different conditions.  Disc brakes up front are a no-brainer.

For me, the C-5 and G-5 both look great and I don't give a wit if they don't have a kick-starter.  If putting a kick-starter on the UCE means having SPRAG problem potential, then NO THANKS.  (My SR500 was kick-start only and there were a few intersections that I sure could have used an electric start.   >:()

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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2008, 05:32:47 AM »
I've got to disagree with you there.  To each his own, but for my money the kick start is part of what makes an Enfield a classic bike, and keeps it from being just another "tribute bike."  That, the metal fenders, and the classic proportions differentiate the Bullet from what I figure is its closest competition, the Triumph Bonneville 900 series.

Of course, it's pointless for me to argue since, in spite of totalmotorcycle.com calling the G-5 a UK model, it appears those (apparently kick started) models will be available in the U.S.
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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2008, 05:39:04 AM »
Monty - There are pictures of the new bikes in this forum, another place is here
www.bulletclassic.com

At present very few of the current mods will work on the new bikes. Having said that, it is only a matter of time before we figure out what works and what doesn't. Over time there will be kits that are specific to the UCE engines. I don't belive for a minute at least on this side of the pond, that owners will leave theire new UcE's stock. That is totally Un-American. I would guess taht there is a lot more to be gotten from this engine. It was built for 35-40 hp and I am told that you can crank it up that high with no compormise in reliability.
  The biggest question will be in what volume they sell. The more of them that are out there the more sense it makes to spend money developing kits etc.

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« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2008, 12:10:53 AM »
If the new motor was built to produce 35-40bhp, does this mean it's going to appear in other applications , or is it solely intended for R.E?

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« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2008, 02:09:17 AM »
Kevin, will the UCE transmission be the same as that on the AVL?  Or has it been improved to handle the increased HP? 

I like what's happening with RE now.  I hope production keeps up with demand.

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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2008, 03:19:36 AM »
Kevin, will the UCE transmission be the same as that on the AVL?  Or has it been improved to handle the increased HP? 

I like what's happening with RE now.  I hope production keeps up with demand.

I can't comment on your question to Kevin about the UCE, but the 5-speed gearbox in the AVL and Classics can handle 50hp as they are right now.
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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2008, 03:24:48 AM »


UNIT CONSTRUCTION (UC) means that the engine and gearbox are combined in one casing, whereas previous engines had a separate gearbox, while Electronic Fuel Injection (EFI) replaces the traditional carburettor.  Power is increased to 27.5 BHP in standard form with 41.3 Nm of torque at 4000rpm.
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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2008, 05:31:09 AM »
The UCE will only be seen in Royal Enfield applications. Remember this is a long stroke single push rod engine. While it's character fits RE perfectly, most other European or Asian companies prefer high revving Overhead Cam engines.
 
The transmission is plenty strong as Ace has pointed out. It uses most of the same parts as the current 5 speed, but is housed within the engine casing and not in a separate box as is the case currently.

My point is that most of our customers can't leave well enough alone so I expect to see quite a bit of "hot-rodding" done to these.

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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2008, 11:49:58 AM »
I really fancy the UCE Classic, but am I alone in thinking the price is a bit too rich for a middleweight single, produced in a third world economy?  The much stronger US Dollar doesn't seem to have been reflected in the price to me.  I would have thought around 5 grand would have been about right, but i expect I'll be proven totally wrong.
  6 and a half-ish?  I would like one, but it's too rich for me.
I look at the latest Jap bikes and the stuff Victory builds over here, and the Euro bikes and just about all of 'em appear to me to be plasticized-assticized exercizes in 'who can do more wierd'--kinda like the never-ending changes in women's clothes, hemlines, and hairstyles that try to hide to dress the basic stuff underneath.  To be able to buy an honest bike that looks like a bike, and whose only pretensions to 'style' are such things as fenders that do what they really ought, and a nice looking teardrop gas tank and an engine that lets you see it's an engine without all kinds of crud stuck on it and around it... for my money, 6 grand is a grand price.  Sure, I wish the UCE were gonna be cheaper so I could buy one for each day of the week...  but what the heck... having just one lets ya ride real honest style every day.  I'll spring for a C-5 when it comes... only I do wish it'll have a kick start (more honesty??? mayhap?) ;)   Just my HO.
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« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2008, 01:43:05 PM »
I really fancy the UCE Classic, but am I alone in thinking the price is a bit too rich for a middleweight single, produced in a third world economy?  The much stronger US Dollar doesn't seem to have been reflected in the price to me.  I would have thought around 5 grand would have been about right, but i expect I'll be proven totally wrong.
  6 and a half-ish?  I would like one, but it's too rich for me.
I look at the latest Jap bikes and the stuff Victory builds over here, and the Euro bikes and just about all of 'em appear to me to be plasticized-assticized exercizes in 'who can do more wierd'--kinda like the never-ending changes in women's clothes, hemlines, and hairstyles that try to hide to dress the basic stuff underneath.  To be able to buy an honest bike that looks like a bike, and whose only pretensions to 'style' are such things as fenders that do what they really ought, and a nice looking teardrop gas tank and an engine that lets you see it's an engine without all kinds of crud stuck on it and around it... for my money, 6 grand is a grand price.  Sure, I wish the UCE were gonna be cheaper so I could buy one for each day of the week...  but what the heck... having just one lets ya ride real honest style every day.  I'll spring for a C-5 when it comes... only I do wish it'll have a kick start (more honesty??? mayhap?) ;)   Just my HO.

I agree.
I'm sick and tired of all the motorcycle "oddball styling exercises" too.
I find most of the current motorcycle selections to be radically ugly.
It could be that the current "retro-fad" is actually a market segment that's sick of the stupid looking new "plastic fantastics", and wants something approximating a relatively "normal motorcycle".
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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2008, 03:19:16 PM »
I agree.
I'm sick and tired of all the motorcycle "oddball styling exercises" too.
I find most of the current motorcycle selections to be radically ugly.
It could be that the current "retro-fad" is actually a market segment that's sick of the stupid looking new "plastic fantastics", and wants something approximating a relatively "normal motorcycle".


Yes, and this points to something that bugs me.  Why is it "retro" to have a bike that simply doesn't have a bunch of ugly plastic body parts added on or a weird shaped gas tank?   ???  As you say, it's simply what a "normal motorcycle" should look like. 

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« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2008, 05:19:52 PM »
Hear, hear.

And why do other manufacturers only make "Adventure" style bikes for people with 48 inch legs?

It's a shame, because those top heavy bikes often have engine configurations (twins, big singles) which would be of interest to Bullet enthusiasts.

If only they would wrap a normal looking roadster around some of those motors. Never mind at, least RE are doing it right.

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« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2008, 05:28:43 PM »
Colleagues, there is precious little to add to your insightfull comments.  So, I will simply state that an RE looks, smells and runs like a motorcycle should.
Long live the Bullets and those who ride them!

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« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2008, 05:58:20 PM »
Ahh, we happy few. We band of traditionalists. Without getting into too much "thread drift", I almost didn't buy my AVL because it came dangerously close to being too radical a departure from tradition.

I also gave a serious look to the Bonneville, only to be apalled that it's a seriously short-stroke motor. Totally un-British-like and makes little power until screaming like any Japanese crotch cannon.

And I agree with the assessments of today's bikes. The Victory Vision looks like a Picasso on wheels. How many panels do you have to remove to serivce that thing? That is, if you can service it.

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« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2008, 06:02:49 PM »
Now if I can just get the wife to start driving the RE, that way I can justify the second machine...
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« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2008, 06:49:21 PM »

And I agree with the assessments of today's bikes. The Victory Vision looks like a Picasso on wheels. How many panels do you have to remove to service that thing? That is, if you can service it.

Plastic, fantastic! That bike would be a strong contender for the most-expensive-damage-arising-from-the-most-trivial-impact award. Reckon five grand might just cover the damage if it fell off its side-stand.
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« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2008, 04:07:47 PM »
last summer i could"nt even get on my sons 650 honda single. it just fell over. and then he says it is"nt really good off road.
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« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2008, 05:12:08 PM »
These types of machines (super trail/adventure bikes) make a perfect example of the look being more important than functionality. A low center of gravity makes a bike a pleasure to ride and most people's off-road needs don't require 15 inches of ground clearance. So why are we pretty much stuck with these things, amongst limited alternatives, when a hypersports plastic rocket is not our cup of tea?

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« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2008, 06:02:08 PM »
Chasfield , you bring up a good point.
In the 80's .Honda had a nice line up of dual-purpose MC's.
I remember a topical show room  had the following : 80cc,100cc,125cc,185cc, 250cc ,and 500cc singles.,all for the choosing.

I broke the piggy bank and purchased a 250 for the outrageous price of $ 1350 out the door.I think the 500 cc was $ 1850.

Now I believe the only choice is a monster 650. Not sure if things are better.
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« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2008, 06:29:56 PM »
Yeah, those petite eighties bikes were much easier to live with, and made great commuters. I had roadster (250 RS) based on the 4 valve Honda 250 trail bike motor and that was a little gem of a machine. I don't think they exported many of them to the USA - off-road styling was probably essential in that market at that time.

Better get back on thread. US pricing for the UCE machines is fairer than I feared it might be. Well done RE, and well done generally for keeping the dainty 500 alive as a motorcycle concept when other makers have lost the plot.
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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2008, 10:30:32 PM »
Can't add too much to the mostly positive responses, Hat's off to Kevin and the  the crew for keeping the g-5/c-5 a closely held  secret( oh wow! check this out!)
and providing a reasonable msrp!. 

Originally the hard core faithfu lon here  were reserving judgement... Seems CMW can begin  breathing again  :)  Here's Hoping this economy doesn't spoil all this investment in work and money..
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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2009, 01:10:58 PM »
Hi everyone,

It's interesting with the current £ to $ exchange rate - the prices you quote in $ers work out near enough the same as we will be paying over here in the UK. And I always thought you guys got everthing so much cheaper than us  ::)
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« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2009, 05:52:07 PM »
You never know where you are with that exchange rate.

Whatever it is supposed to be, half the time the real rate seems to be about a dollar for a pound - ie. we Brits. get badly ripped off.

I knew a bloke, a UK resident, who played the trumpet, Whenever he needed a new one he would fix up a vacation in the US because a decent trumpet bought in the UK was more than the cost of both a trumpet and vacation in the US.

He subsequently emigrated permanently to the US ...  for some reason.


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« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2009, 08:42:30 PM »
You never know where you are with that exchange rate.

He subsequently emigrated permanently to the US ...  for some reason.
With the way the U.S. dollar has been going ,your friend is probably on his way back to the UK.
Just for fun ...a coffee and a doughnut may set you back 7-10 $ at a coffee shop. How much would tea and a biscut go for in the UK?
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« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2009, 09:10:31 PM »
Tea & piece of cake - £3 tops - unless you go to one of those fancy US franchise places
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« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2009, 11:11:49 PM »
You never know where you are with that exchange rate.

He subsequently emigrated permanently to the US ...  for some reason.
With the way the U.S. dollar has been going ,your friend is probably on his way back to the UK.
Just for fun ...a coffee and a doughnut may set you back 7-10 $ at a coffee shop. How much would tea and a biscut go for in the UK?
Remember now East Pond Dwellers, Pozer is not talking US, he's talking Alaska. They've always been high priced being so far away from .......  ;D

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« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2009, 11:54:36 PM »
True ,Phil
I guess a better question would have asked, what is the price of tea and cake  in down town London.
UK- Classics price of 3 GBP would be 5-6 U.S. dollars. That would be a good deal in Alaska.
I try to do business with mom & pop coffee shops when able, as apposed to franchises( nothing wrong with them just my preference)
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« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2009, 04:56:13 AM »
Hmmm, I am not to sure if taking in exchange rates are a good way to price the new bikes.
Ok, for a start, the coffee and doughnut over here would be around $4 NZ which is only a couple of US dollars.
All though we havn't had the prices yet for the new bikes my guess iis they will be around the $10,000 NZ mark ($6000 US). So on the face of it things sound about the same.
EXCEPT we have to earn $4000 more than you to afford a new bike. Say you are making $20 per hour and we are also. We will have to work that much longer to get the same bike.
I am not sure if I am explaining it right but the long and short of it is our bikes will be much more expensive than yours.
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« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2009, 11:15:04 AM »
Yeah, Pozer, I do the mom and pop thing too. The pace in the franchise joints just don't fit my style. Any more I should say, 'cause like most everyone, every once-in-a-while it just seems prudent. grrr.

Pozer, you ride, it seems, as long as practical, just curious what kind of riding clothing you use in the land of wet and cold summers? (summers as compared to the lower branch of the US)
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« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2009, 08:57:10 PM »
Only heard of the ‘mom & pop’ phrase last year, there was a programme over in uk where an English  guy had to travel across the US only using mom & pop stores, motels, garages etc. Interesting stuff, shame to see many of these places being taken over by the multi nationals – sorry going off the thread a bit here!  ;D
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« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2009, 09:32:53 PM »
Well it wouldn't make any sense for the more classic looking or the two motorcycles to
not have the kickstart, right?  You would think that if one of them would have a kickstart
it would be the  C-5.  I  would guess that neither UCE has the kickstart or both models will.

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« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2009, 10:39:51 PM »
Well it wouldn't make any sense for the more classic looking or the two motorcycles to
not have the kickstart, right?  You would think that if one of them would have a kickstart
it would be the  C-5.  I  would guess that neither UCE has the kickstart or both models will.

That's what I thought, but the pics on the UK RE site seem to indicate otherwise:
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« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2009, 12:24:00 PM »
hey the prices seem fair to me.you could buy a suzuki tu 250 but it dosnt have the power of a 500 single.to the purist i love old bullets and the avl.I was really wanting a classic cast iron bullet.Well money is the problem so traded a truck for a bunch of old triumphs and mics junk.got a bonnie chopper and a hd flh.both look classic both need fixed every other time i ride.kinda hard to find parts in a small town.gas prices kill me  im ok on every thing else so a reliable bullet that gets exellent gas milage and looks good is great.and im gonna own one we are luky we can still get a bike that dosent look like a plastic toy.be safe out there

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« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2009, 11:34:02 PM »
Don't be too sure about the power shinerunner.

Suzuki doesn't list the power on its web site, but I would bet the HP is equal to or better than the RE, while the Bullet wins on Torque.

The overall performance of the two bikes will probably be very similar.
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« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2009, 08:04:39 AM »
Yes - I agree (probably not much in HP) torque certainly better on RE. 

For the most part those that want an RE are not really comparing it with Jap bikes anyway. Saying that -  I was in a dealer in Ireland recently & he was not very hopeful for sales over there of the new G5/C5 - he said the new prices would put people off when they are sitting next to his Jap bikes.

He said he would get a C5 in to put in the window - more as a talking point & see if it generated interest. He was certainly disappointed in the pricing of the new machines.

 I guess RE dealers will not be able to sell the same volume of bikes as previous due to no 'cheap' bikes being available anymore.
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« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2009, 02:44:23 AM »
  I have to agree with RAKE, who cares about a kick start? Pushing a button sounds like a much better way to go...I still have scars on my shins fron trying to kickstart tempermental dirt bikes with teethy footpegs back in the 70's......
   I think Royal Enfields are going to enjoy a large new popularity with the new 2009 UCE bikes. The pricing is fantastic - the nostalgic thing is really "going on", and old farts like me have more money than the 20 somethings and their silly crotch rockets......OK, OK, some of us are dying off & are content to sit around and drink Geritol....but not me...I don';t care what my wife says, I WILL be buying a new 2009 Classic in Teal. Come and visit me and my new bike to keep me company after she divorces me...
 

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« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2009, 03:14:51 AM »
Don't be too sure about the power shinerunner.

Suzuki doesn't list the power on its web site, but I would bet the HP is equal to or better than the RE, while the Bullet wins on Torque.

The overall performance of the two bikes will probably be very similar.

Some Googling shows previous Japanese market TU250 models at around 20hp and 14 ft/lbs torque.
Perhaps the newest ones may have a little more.
But the UCE Bullet is going to have probably 25% more hp, and twice the torque of the TU250, or in that neighborhood. The UCE Bullet has 30 ft/lbs torque, and is supposed to have about 25-27hp in bottled-up stock form. A simple exhaust replacement is claimed to put it over 30hp.
That's pretty decent power for a Bullet.  I'll bet it goes pretty good.
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« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2009, 04:35:21 AM »
Some Googling shows previous Japanese market TU250 models at around 20hp and 14 ft/lbs torque.
Perhaps the newest ones may have a little more.
But the UCE Bullet is going to have probably 25% more hp, and twice the torque of the TU250, or in that neighborhood. The UCE Bullet has 30 ft/lbs torque, and is supposed to have about 25-27hp in bottled-up stock form. A simple exhaust replacement is claimed to put it over 30hp.
That's pretty decent power for a Bullet.  I'll bet it goes pretty good.

 Ace, if what your quoting is correct then it would definitely justify the UCE's price point. Look at the hoops ya gotta jump through to squeeze that kind of performance out of an iron-barrel Bullet. Man, if I keep reading post like yours I'm going to start saving some of them wood nickels and get in line, it might be a long one!   Blltrdr
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« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2009, 04:55:37 AM »
I think the biggest concern for Enfield will be the price versus bikes like the two Suzukis. I'm sure the Bullet UCE will be stouter that the Suzi 250, but not as strong as the Suzi 650 single, HP or torque.  Also, the 250 weighs probably 50 lbs less than the Enfield, and the 650 weighs about the same.

But the price for the 250 is only 3500.00 MSRP, and only 4600.00 MSRP for the S40, and it would be easy to get some discount off those prices.

I know brand loyalty will mean a lot, the accessories available for the Enfield will be better, at least OEM items, and certainly the retro factor for the RE is better; I may get  a C5 for that reason.

It just depends on whether potential customers for REs make objective comparisons, and how well the new G5/C5 stand up to those comparisons if they are made.
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« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2009, 05:55:34 AM »
  SKUZUKI huh? People will flock for miles just to get a glimpse of that S40 every time you park it! You probably will have to hire some security to fight off all the women dying to ride on back with you. Man, don't forget the puddin' bowl and the scarf or you won't fit in; you've got to look the part when you ride down the road on that single. Harken back to yesteryear.... I mean yesterday ! And I can't get that designation out of my mind, S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40 S40.... Man it just rolls of my tongue like some well spoken French!  I'll be right back I think I hear one coming down the road; sorry, false alarm, some kid had lost his balloon! If I buy one I can't be Blltrdr anymore, alas S40rdr has mucho more charm anyway. Kinda rolls of your tongue, not!
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« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2009, 01:38:10 PM »
I only mentioned the Suzi because someone else mentioned it previously in this post, and because it IS a mechanical competetitor to the RE. And if the "S40" name isn't very exciting, which it's not, it could always be referred to by its origial name, "Savage".  Would that make it ride better? 

I have always enjoyed the brand loyalty that is apparent on forums; trucks, cars, bikes, guitars, you name it, and I've also seen this on Suzi S40/ Savage forums.  Lots of those folks apparently own REs AND S40s, but some of the Savage people are VERY passionate about their bikes, and are proud of how much power they've been able to get out of one, and the customizing the've done, just like here, Honda, HD, any other forums.

But, I'll stick with my original statement, no matter how much brand loyalty anyone has, or how much cool any bike displays, or the tradition involved, those are all SUBJECTIVE factors.  Certainly they are important, and all you have to do is look at Harley Davidson to know that "perceived cool" has a very real financial value. As I said, I may get a C5 just because of subjective reasons.

But things like how much power, brakes, cost, reliability, etc., are objective factors, and I have always given a lot of consideration to those things, too.  This is a discussion that will never have a resolution, because it its founded on personal opinions, but my only point, originally, was just to make some objective comparisons between the RE and Suzi bikes. 

I know that someone who is a Royal Enfield person will not very go into a store like my RE dealer's, (who are VERY nice people that also sold me my Gold WIng, and also sell Suzis and Kaws) and end up buying a Savage instead of a Bullet.  BUT, someone who wants a nice, smaller bike, and sees them side by side, may well look at the engine size, belt versus chain drive, Japanese rep. for reliability, and be unable to see what would make a RE 500 single cost probably at least 2000.00 dollars more than the Suzuki 650 single.

By the way, If you bought one, you could STILL be Blltrdr, if you kept your Bullet, AND you could go onto a S40 forum and be Savagerdr. That ain't too shabby!  I'm Alawing, Alasport, Alanomad, Alaroyal, depending on where you find me. As far as gals, well, my experience of many years has been that gettin' a gal onto a bike is more about me than whatever I was riding.     :)

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« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2009, 03:15:41 PM »
  SAVAGE! Hmmm, depending how you say it, it does sound French. Now that makes all the difference in the world! I'll rush on down to the showroom and tell the salesman in my best French accent that I want to buy a SAVAGE. And with my new found coolness and beret I will be irresistible to those who cross my path. Maybe the dealer will throw in a Django Reinhardt and a Edith Piaff cd if I buy the TU 250 too! I hope the TU is called PETIT SAVAGE; that would be a big bonus!  Savagerdr
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« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2009, 04:00:54 PM »
While this may seem like heresy, I wouldn't mind owning one of the new Suzuki 250's my self. It would go into a rather large and growing group of bikes that I own, but I think it is a cool bike. Not as cool as an RE of course, but cool nonetheless

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« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2009, 04:54:53 PM »
I can't buy Japanese motorcycles.

I've actually attempted to do it a couple of times, and even got as far as going into a Suzuki dealership once, in 1980.
I just couldn't do it.
I left there with a basket-case Ducati 750 that he had collecting dust in the back of his warehouse. I preferred to buy that, and push it home on foot for 2.5 miles, than to buy a new Suzuki that I had enough money in my pocket for.

I've lived my entire motorcycling life without a single Japanese motorcycle, and now that I have the Classic Bullet and a bunch of spares, I think I can finish out that way.

A lifetime motorcyclist, without ever owning a rice-burner.
I rather like that.
Never really accepted the idea that the Japanese "took over" the motorcycle industry, and I always dug my heels in against it. I never liked what they offered, and they killed many of the marques that I favored.
I won't buy any of them.

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« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2009, 04:58:33 PM »
I will humbly have to to admit that I have mid 1960's Yamaha 250 and an X-6 Hustler in my stable. Takes me back to the days where a 250 would impress girls.

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« Reply #75 on: January 15, 2009, 05:05:43 PM »
 Now yer talkin! Some vintage Yamaha never get's old. How about the SR500? And a Hustler too! I wonder if Larry Flynt gets royalty checks?  Blltrdr
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« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2009, 06:12:47 PM »
  SAVAGE! Hmmm, depending how you say it, it does sound French. Now that makes all the difference in the world! Maybe the dealer will throw in a Django Reinhardt and a Edith Piaff cd if I buy the TU 250 too! I hope the TU is called PETIT SAVAGE; that would be a big bonus!  Savagerdr

Yeah !!  And maybe some vintage Leo Kottke to go with the Reinhardt and Piaff stuff! It could be like the Hardees commercial...  "Ba donk ka donk and Ba dink a dink", for the Thickburger and Little Thickburger    "Le Savage" and "Le Savage Petit" for the S40 and Tu250.

Actually, I like the looks of the 250 better than the 650, it's a little more of a "street standard" look, whereas the 650 has more cruiser influence. I do like the belt drive on the 650, though.

I was on my Wing recently, and stopped at a red light, next to a young man wearing a backpack, who was riding one of the older Savages. I asked him how he liked it, and he was basically glowing about how good it was.  The light turned green, and with a big grin he really roared away, such as it is on a bike of that nature, and I could tell he was as happy as a dead pig in the sunshine.  That's got to be what riding is about, isn't it ?

Kevin, I'm glad to see that you're a collector; I've always said that if I was a mega rich guy, I'd have a stable of bikes that made Jay Leno's look like a rummage sale.

That Suzi X-6 Hustler was one of those "giant killers", and a pretty hot rig in its day.  I hope to round up a single overhead cam Honda CB750, maybe a 69 - 71 model someday to restore. The price of Rook on those things is gettiing kinda dicey, though!

By the way, my Rocket should be at my dealer today, hopefully, so I ought to be hacking soon.  I'll put up some pics as soon as I figure out how, of my Royal Enfield "Royal Glide",with batwing fairing, and with the hack. 

All I need now is some leg shields, kinda like a RR fairing, to get rid of the "Le Hurricane Petit" that comes around the bottom of the fairing, turns North and hits me in the face. I'm working on it, but any suggestions would be appreciated. Maybe some soft "lowers" to go on a crash bar. I've tried those on other bikes, and they work pretty well, but I'd like something that's a little more areodynamically smooth, or"fair".
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2009, 06:29:19 PM »
I think that perhaps one of those "Airflow" fairings that RE used back in the 50s might look pretty good on that bike with the hack.
I don't know if anyone is still making the Airflow. You might have to look around for a used one from back then. I'm sure they are around, if you look around enough.

Here's a pic of an RE with an Airflow fairing  on it.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2009, 07:38:00 PM »
Now that is a sharp fairing. I like the front fender as well.  My batwing is an escapee from an old HD police bike from a long time ago, it is a Shoei, or a copy, so I kinda like the idea of scrounging up one of those old "airflows".

I like the design, since it leaves a route for air get to the engine, and the exhaust pipe, but still would keep it off the rider. That's just what I need.

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« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2009, 09:09:00 PM »
I think Suzuki did a nice job with the retro look of the 250, but the Bullet is the real thing, not a modern copy. Remember the old Porsche tag line: "There is no substitute"? Well, that's the Bullet.

I think some people were scared off by the carb and drum brake and other old fashioned aspects of the calssic Bullet (look at how many questions we got here about reliability from prospective buyers). The UCE with its low maintenance EFI, hydraulic lifters, and disk brake will be much more appealing to the buyer who wants that classic look and sound without the classic maintenance sched.

A good dealer (like Vince for example) should easily be able to sell the C5 to a shopper also looking at the Savage or the TU250. Any dealer who thinks that he can't shouldn't be selling Enfields.

As many of us have related, our Bullets never fail to draw a crowd and admiring glaces, even from the Harley guys. I bet the Savage riders don't get anything but a sneer from that crowd. The modern engine should easily make up for the extra $$ and make the RE more than capable of kicking Suzuki Savage behind in a sales competition.

On the subject of bikes we have owned, ia have owned 1 Suzuki (66 80cc 2 stroke), 2 Yamahas (69 YR2 350 2 stroke and 89 FJ1200), 1 BMW ('69 R69S),  1 Honda (71 SL175 twin), and the Enfield. For good measure add the bikes my dad owned when I was a kid, a '70 Honda CB175 twin and a 60's Indian 250 twin. The FJ is my current bike after selling the Bullet last July.

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #80 on: January 15, 2009, 09:48:54 PM »
Now that is a sharp fairing. I like the front fender as well.  My batwing is an escapee from an old HD police bike from a long time ago, it is a Shoei, or a copy, so I kinda like the idea of scrounging up one of those old "airflows".

I like the design, since it leaves a route for air get to the engine, and the exhaust pipe, but still would keep it off the rider. That's just what I need.

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If I'm not mistaken, I think the fender is a part of the fairing package, although I don't know if they are actually connected together. But, they might be.
If you look closely at the fork legs, you'll notice that they go inside the shrouds of the fender, and the fender doesn't go up and down with the suspension.

And, it's a real Royal Enfield fairing, so it's not just something hanging on there from some other bike, or a universal jobbie.
I just found another view of it from a more frontal angle, so you can see the details better. this one is on a RE 350 Clipper. They were available in all colors, but these 2 photos I found just happened to both be blue.
I think this fairing would look awesome on a Bullet with a hack.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #81 on: January 16, 2009, 02:23:30 AM »
After looking at the second pic, I believe the fender rotates with the fork, it appears to be "turned", relative to the fairing. Thanks for finding those for me.

You are absolutely right, that's the fairing I need, and it will look good with the car.(although I believe you'll agree with me, the batwing really does look nice on the Electra).

By the way, I saw my sidecar at the dealer today, and left mt bike there to get the car installed. I'm eager to try it out.  It's been a long wait, (since August), but I'm sure it'll be worth it.   

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #82 on: January 16, 2009, 02:36:36 AM »
I think that perhaps one of those "Airflow" fairings that RE used back in the 50s might look pretty good on that bike with the hack.
I don't know if anyone is still making the Airflow. You might have to look around for a used one from back then. I'm sure they are around, if you look around enough.

Here's a pic of an RE with an Airflow fairing  on it.


 Ace that is a great looking fairing! The original Vetter fairings were close in design with the Airflow. I'm sure there is still a few kickin' around. Don't know about the Airflow, maybe very few left? Maybe someone could copy one and start producing them again, probably would be a good seller!    Blltrdr
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« Reply #83 on: January 16, 2009, 03:34:47 AM »
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #84 on: January 16, 2009, 01:01:01 PM »
Ok, that's it, now I know my destination.  Gotta have it.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #85 on: January 18, 2009, 05:01:14 AM »
I've been on the fence about buying a RE for sometime, but the introduction of the UCE has swayed me. I was a bit concerned about the upkeep as I don't have a good area (covered) to work on a bike, even though I'm fairly handy with tools and can follow directions.
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« Reply #86 on: January 18, 2009, 05:21:18 AM »
"My Social Security benefits start up in May and I will be putting a sizable portion away each month. The Turquoise two-tone is in my sights. It will be my retirement gift to myself."  Frenchy   ;D

Good for you, Frenchy!  I am turning 62 this month and will shortly start receiving my SSA benefits.  Although I have a 2004 Sixty-5 (Perla) that I absolutely love, I, like you, am keeping a close eye on the C5!  All I have to do is justify the expense to my CEO of forty years!   ::)
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« Reply #87 on: January 18, 2009, 05:53:28 AM »
"My Social Security benefits start up in May and I will be putting a sizable portion away each month. The Turquoise two-tone is in my sights. It will be my retirement gift to myself."  Frenchy   ;D

Good for you, Frenchy!  I am turning 62 this month and will shortly start receiving my SSA benefits.  Although I have a 2004 Sixty-5 (Perla) that I absolutely love, I, like you, am keeping a close eye on the C5!  All I have to do is justify the expense to my CEO of forty years!   ::)

I fully understand. My better half passed away 2 1/2 years ago, but she would have understood. She knew that I kept putting a bike on the back burner, while keeping family responsibilities first.

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« Reply #88 on: January 18, 2009, 06:42:32 AM »
Frenchy, I ask you to please accept my profound apology for bringing our spouses into the dialogue and state that I am very sorry to hear of your loss.
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« Reply #89 on: January 18, 2009, 08:47:54 AM »
Frenchy, I ask you to please accept my profound apology for bringing our spouses into the dialogue and state that I am very sorry to hear of your loss.

No apologies needed, my friend. We had 36 extraordinary years together, and two fabulous kids. Life throws us curves once in a while.
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« Reply #90 on: January 18, 2009, 08:58:40 AM »
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #91 on: January 21, 2009, 02:53:08 AM »
I've been on the fence about buying a RE for sometime, but the introduction of the UCE has swayed me. I was a bit concerned about the upkeep as I don't have a good area (covered) to work on a bike, even though I'm fairly handy with tools and can follow directions.
My Social Security benefits start up in May and I will be putting a sizable portion away each month. The Turquoise two-tone is in my sights. It will be my retirement gift to myself.  ;D

I spent 2 years working on mine (a 2002 4-speed) without a garage, including removing the primary and digging into the gear box to replace the kickstart pawl (search my posts for the details if you like). It was sometimes a challenge, but ultimately very doable. No garage kept me from doing some of the mods that I would have liked, but it was never a problem in terms of basic maintenance and even some more elaborate repairs.

 With some care on your part and careful following of the break in period you should not need to do very much work on it if you don't choose to.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2009, 09:42:55 AM »
I've been on the fence about buying a RE for sometime, but the introduction of the UCE has swayed me. I was a bit concerned about the upkeep as I don't have a good area (covered) to work on a bike, even though I'm fairly handy with tools and can follow directions.
My Social Security benefits start up in May and I will be putting a sizable portion away each month. The Turquoise two-tone is in my sights. It will be my retirement gift to myself.  ;D

I spent 2 years working on mine (a 2002 4-speed) without a garage, including removing the primary and digging into the gear box to replace the kickstart pawl (search my posts for the details if you like). It was sometimes a challenge, but ultimately very doable. No garage kept me from doing some of the mods that I would have liked, but it was never a problem in terms of basic maintenance and even some more elaborate repairs.

 With some care on your part and careful following of the break in period you should not need to do very much work on it if you don't choose to.

Thanks danny...I'll certainly keep that in mind. I wouldn't mind the pre-UCE if one's available at my time of purchase.
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« Reply #93 on: January 22, 2009, 08:07:22 PM »
We think we will have Pre-unit bikes available to dealers unitil late spring. We have run out of some colors but we still have some left.

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« Reply #94 on: January 26, 2009, 04:04:44 PM »
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Bullet Classic G-5 with UCE engine  -    $5995
Bullet Classic G-5 Deluxe with UCE  -    $6095
Bullet Classic C-5 with UCE engine  -    $6395

.....

The G-5 will get here sometime in the spring. It will initially be available as a Classic with solid paint and pinstriped fenders in Black and V. Green. The G-5 Deluxe will be available in Black and Red. ....

Trying to locate a picture of a V. Green Bullet Classic G-5 with UCE engine.  I am assuming that the Chrome fendered G5 pictured is the G5 deluxe and the standard G5 will have painted fenders and Gas tank.   

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« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2009, 12:16:39 AM »
I will get C5 when it get in my area. C5 looks awesome.
Glad I waited to find the right bike for me.

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« Reply #96 on: February 27, 2009, 01:37:15 AM »
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Bullet Classic G-5 with UCE engine -    $5995
Bullet Classic G-5 Deluxe with UCE  -    $6095
Bullet Classic C-5 with UCE engine -    $6395

.....

The G-5 will get here sometime in the spring. It will initially be available as a Classic with solid paint and pinstriped fenders in Black and V. Green. The G-5 Deluxe will be available in Black and Red. ....

Trying to locate a picture of a V. Green Bullet Classic G-5 with UCE engine.  I am assuming that the Chrome fendered G5 pictured is the G5 deluxe and the standard G5 will have painted fenders and Gas tank.   

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« Reply #97 on: February 28, 2009, 02:39:46 AM »
These prices are MSRP and do NOT include shipping, set-up, taxes, bailout surcharges etc.) - just kidding about the surcharges
Bullet Classic with Lean-Burn engine - $5349
Bullet Deluxe with Lean- Burn engine - $5449
Bullet Military with Lean-Burn engine -  $5545
Bullet Electra with Lean-Burn engine -  $5745

Bullet Classic G-5 with UCE engine  -    $5995
Bullet Classic G-5 Deluxe with UCE  -    $6095
Bullet Classic C-5 with UCE engine  -    $6395

From what I'm reading on the web, the shipping and set-up charges add another $800 or so to these prices, is that right?
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« Reply #98 on: February 28, 2009, 05:06:03 PM »
Shipping and set-up charges are set by the dealers and generally reflect the real-world costs that they have. We can laugh about the "bailout surcharge" (which cracked me up), but we will all by paying for the rest of our lives, they just haven't figured out what to call it yet.

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« Reply #99 on: February 28, 2009, 05:36:09 PM »
... We can laugh about the "bailout surcharge" (which cracked me up), but we will all by paying for the rest of our lives, they just haven't figured out what to call it yet.

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« Reply #100 on: February 28, 2009, 05:57:20 PM »
The new tax will officially be called the Bad Investements Tax Congress Hatched or BITCH for short.
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« Reply #101 on: February 28, 2009, 06:45:34 PM »
During the Viet Nam era there was a surcharge on the taxes you paid, basicaly a tax on the tax.

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« Reply #102 on: March 01, 2009, 01:03:42 PM »
The new tax will officially be called the Bad Investements Tax Congress Hatched or BITCH for short.

Good one Cabo! A real good one.

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« Reply #103 on: March 01, 2009, 06:29:54 PM »
The new tax will officially be called the Bad Investements Tax Congress Hatched or BITCH for short.

Good one Cabo! A real good one.

Brother Phil, I thank you for your endorsement of the proposed name!  And, I am not all that talented at all, Phil.  That BITCH was a no-brainer of a name; really!    :D
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« Reply #104 on: March 01, 2009, 08:24:08 PM »
The way we are going to be paying is through inflation. When you sharply increase the money supply without a corrosponding increase in goods and services being produced, the currency is devalued. Add to that the depression of market activity caused by even more government involvement, and we should see a negative economic spiral for some time. The market will recover, but it will be in spite of government, not because of it. However, that will not prevent polititions from taking full credit for the recovery when it does happen.

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« Reply #105 on: March 03, 2009, 05:39:26 AM »
Here's a good one. The only banks that are lending right now are the small well run local banks and credit unions. Why you ask? They ran their banks like a bank and didn't make stupid loans. These guys and gals are the only thing keeping many small business alive today. Now we have spend billions on top of billions in giveaways with no result other than whining for more to the big banks who ran themselves out of business. So what does the govt decide to do - raise the fee that the good banks pay for FDIC insurance 5 fold, plus a huge surcharge (7-13% of their earnings)  to pay for a shortfall in the insurance fund thanks to the bad banks. This is enough that in many cases they are going to be stressed out of business or become part of big insolvent banks. For every dollar in extra FDIC insurance they have to pay, some people say that it will take $12 out of their available lending, Now these banks are literally the only thing working in our banking industry (no bailouts either) and the govt. is squeezing them while thowing money at the big banks faster than they can print it (literally). It shows how out of touch these people are. Small business's are the largest job creators in the US by a long shot, so lets give the losers money and try to screw the producers.
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« Reply #106 on: March 03, 2009, 04:07:33 PM »
Well said, Brother Kevin!  It simply boils down to these two factors: (1) The government cannot give Party B anything unless it takes it away from Party A.  (2) The government cannot increase wealth by dividing and spreading it.  (Period.)
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« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2009, 06:38:59 AM »
As soon as they have a military UCE it will be mine....................make them soon please
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« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2009, 12:49:18 PM »
I think the military UCE will be one classy looking bike, can't wait to see one.
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« Reply #109 on: April 20, 2009, 04:36:08 PM »
I have a question does the C5 come looking like all the photos I see, like in the link I added? Or are these addons

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« Reply #110 on: April 20, 2009, 07:32:01 PM »
The upsweep exhaust system is aftermarket.  The stock C5 has an exhaust like the AVL, Classic and Military.  Everything else is standard.

I have a question does the C5 come looking like all the photos I see, like in the link I added? Or are these addons

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« Reply #111 on: May 21, 2009, 09:42:27 PM »
I'm a newbie on the forum and I can't remember the last time I was more smitten by a bike than the C5...wow...if it looks as good in person, I'll buy one.  I'm coming into a bit of money at the end of June, so here in the US that seems perfect...wish there was a nearby dealer though.

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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #112 on: May 21, 2009, 09:49:37 PM »
I know how you feel, I had to order a C5 from a dealer 150 miles away. Go for it.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #113 on: May 21, 2009, 10:10:25 PM »
kevin it dosn't show these people are out of touch.. it shows who's really running this (dare i say fascist) country.
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Re: UCE pricing announcement
« Reply #114 on: May 22, 2009, 07:20:53 PM »
With regard to UCE pricing (the topic of this thread), I have seen some comparative gripes about the high price of the UCEs versus bikes of other companies, which may charge as much or more, but provide more in the way of build quality and performance.  It seems to me, though I am very out of touch with prices of things, that the UCE is a bargain in having all the aspects one could want in a classic type of bike, yet having a factory and distributors who obviously care about what they provide, not only in the bikes themselves, but in after sales service.

As to the bank issue which Kevin mentions above - isn't it a turning away from things like quality and service to a simple money making mode of doing business that is behind the whole messy thing?  Small anything, whether it be a bike operation (and R E is small in size of organization, isn't it?)or a bank is much better than large, yet integrating small banking units into large conglomerates is what the major trend is, same with agriculture and other business interests.  I suppose it has to do with overall efficiency and profit making, but the consumer is the one who loses every time. 
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