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1Blackwolf1

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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2009, 01:27:18 AM »
  I put in an Autolite like Mike runs seems okay so far and about $1 cheaper.  Will.
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2009, 01:54:20 AM »
Scooter Bob has some interesting thoughts about Autolite spark plugs, lets see if we can entice him into this thread.

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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2009, 02:01:05 AM »
  I' still wondering why mine was equipped with a BP7ES new.  But what the heck it runs okay on the Autolite also.  Just hard to find the BP7ES around here..no one has one in stock.  Will.
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2009, 02:02:57 AM »
I think Scooter Bob really likes the Autolite.

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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2009, 10:05:52 AM »
  Now Kevin does he really like it, or REALLY, REALLY like it.  I feel the same way about Champions.  Will.
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2009, 11:57:18 AM »
I think Scooter Bob really likes the Autolite.

    Really??  I seem to be the only other one that will admit to running them.
What does he use??
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2009, 12:48:13 PM »
I will try to get Scooter Bob involved this AM. Unless I am mistaken, confusing our conversatoin with a dream I may have had (easy to do at my age) or had this talk with someone else I think he has an interesting take on Autolite plugs.

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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2009, 12:50:28 PM »
Why do I have the feeling Kevin is messing with us? ;D
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2009, 12:55:51 PM »
Not possible, I have no sense of humor whatsoever.

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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2009, 01:26:53 PM »
  Sure you don't...so why do you put up with the motley crew in assemblage?  Will.
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2009, 03:44:29 PM »
A-a-a-a-a-ah - The old spark plug debate, featuring the likes of the No Good Kind plugs and the Champi-NON plugs. The problems that we have read about here are endemic to old-school stuff whose combustion chambers get filled with more than the merest vapour that will result in combustion. In other words - WET fuel and oil, etc .....

The problem starts with how the plugs are made. They are ALL good in a Honda U-LEV engine as there is barely enough molecular fuel vapour to ignite and burn. Our old design Enfields and other old-style stuff are a bit different. They seem to be happy when the whole dinosaur is shoveled into the combustion chamber .....  ;D This is what causes the problem. New, Modern and Wonderful sparking plugs are no longer fired to porcelain on the "business end" of the plug. They don't NEED to be for a really lean engine. What occurs is that the ceramic, being once-fired BISQUE, absorbs "wet" from the chamber and it turns to carbon (the best conductor on the Planet ...) with the heat of combustion. Then they foul as the spark takes the easy way to ground down the carbon encrusted ceramic into the base of the plug. I have this problem with lead-fouling occasionally with any plug but an Autolite. they are the only manufacturer that still twice-fires the plug until it's porcelain - THAT'S why they don't foul out like the No Good Kind will ..... I have used the Autolites about forever - first the $25 each racing (surface gap) plugs - then into the race car hauler ..... then into everything else. Champion used to BE the Champions - they got cheap as well, though. The Autolite plugs are the DEAL - you can usually get 'em at Advance Auto or Auto Zone or some such for around a buck and a half .... sometimes a little cheaper - and they WORK. Since we DO ride Enfields, tho - it's a good idea to carry one with you. After all - a spark plug is EASY to change ... pushin' is hard stuff!! I hope this helps a bit   ;).
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2009, 04:37:46 PM »
  Got hooked on BERU racing plugs in Germany..worked with over 300 German civilians and all the mechanics and techs ran them in their macihes.  Too bad I can't afford them here., or even find an importer.  They were about $3.00 a plug back in 1991.  Will.
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2009, 04:42:35 PM »
Copy that on the BERU spark plugs - The old Bap-Geon import parts fellows used to bring those into the country - ALL of us old Brit racing Luddites used them .... My Mini would frag a set in a weekend of serious racing .... as serious as you can GET with an 850cc Mini, that is!! Hahahaha!!! (I just told everyone HOW ancient I'm getting with that reference to Bap-Geon ..... ;) )
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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2009, 01:31:23 AM »
So with the autolite, champion etc for plugs, are there different sizes to them that match up to the NGK plugs? I use the b8es but don't know if the other other makers have similar sizing or what? My little RE is a bit touchy around plugs so anything that would be even a bit helpful IE: get me to at least 150 miles before having to change plugs would be nice. I'm carrying about 4 plugs on me (really TD is the one with the plugs in his sidecar).

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Re: Spark Plug
« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2009, 01:48:46 AM »
     I have had tremendous success with the NGK B8ES. If you are fouling plugs that often something is wrong. I have missed something either with your bike or in adjusting to your particular riding habits. If you are simply doing a lot of low speed riding then a hotter plug may be called for.  It is not the choice of plug. Call me tomorrow and I will talk with you.