No acknowledgment of the disparaging remarks made. No appolgy.More sidestepping and emotion. LJ you are hemorrhaging respect and creditability at an exponential rate here.
We differ in our starting points, our underlying premises.
Ice, it is you who are off base and refuse to make sense. It is you who posted a long opening to a thread on on the proposed medical plan which clearly was pirated from some other source, with little thought or investigation given, and what you tried to feed us was largely debunked. It is also you who went on and on about wanting to see the proof of Obama's birth - to what end, I think we can all surmise. I don't see that you have that much credibility, truth be known.
IMHO You are still losing what little creditability you have left with the members and guests of this forum over this .
Hey Ice,You and LJ having a personal disagreement is one thing, but don't presume to know anything about what the rest of us think regarding the credibility of others on this forum unless we have specifically said so. I'm not wading into this topic anymore, because nobody is changing anyone else's mind (although I think LJ and I are in basic agreement).and I don't frankly have the time.Eamon
Ace,I think things started down the wrong track with Wilson and FDR just took the ball and ran with it.My view of government healthcare is this. Next time you get medical treatment go up to the door of the richest man on your street with the bill and ask him to give you the money to cover your costs. Tell him if he does not you will return with a gun and take the money or lock him up. That is what is proposed, its just that people are hiding behind government. Looters on and all...