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[Blue Ridge Wheeltor]

Anyone use 2 stroke oil in their gas? The marine blend.

[baird4444]

                       WHY would you do that?

[ShenandoahThumper]

Put some bean oil in for that classic smell!

[Blue Ridge Wheeltor]

Should be especially good in the C5/G5.

[ShenandoahThumper]

I had a Scott Flying Squirrel that used to give my fellow riders a smell that lasted quite a while if they were behind me.

[Blue Ridge Wheeltor]

I bet Clamp knows.

[REpozer]

Old school... was to add a little oil to help the valve train ( upper end), I don't think it would hurt to add some (with limits)to an iron head or AVL, ....BUT...I would NOT do it to a UCE because of the O2 sensor and the computer ...could induce a check engine light .

[Blue Ridge Wheeltor]

500:1 shouldn't do that and will lube the fuel pump.

[Blue Ridge Wheeltor]

Interesting read:
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91206

[Ted White]

I wouldn't use two-stroke oil, but a bit of Marvel Mystery oil wouldn't hurt.  It can be added to both engine oil and in the fuel.  There are clear instructions on the can (yes, still in a steel can!).  I used it in a '76 Moto Guzzi T3 and it ran fine for 80,000 miles.  That probably means very little, as I have no idea how many miles the average T3 will go before there's some sort of hiccup.  However, all the aging motorheads in town swore by it, so I went with the flow.

[Geirskogul]

Locals here (and across the internet, it seems) like Seafoam.  I do, too.

[cyrusb]

Mine allready puts oil in its cylinder all by itself. All I have to do is put gas in the tank and it supplies the oil.

[ScooterBob]

I have used two-cycle oil for years as an upper cylinder lubricant and as a fuel stabiliser and octane booster for the miserable piss-for-fuel that we pump out of the ground these days. It's just quite dandy in the older stuff for all the right reasons. Two cycle oil isn't needed in the UCE engine at all due to the metallurgy in the critical top end parts such as valve seats, valves, rings, etc. Remember that the piston is phosphate coated for a non-stick surface surface better than a Billy Mays omlette pan, too! The two-cycle oil WILL, as it does leave behind ash and some particulates, render the Oh-Two sensor useless over time as well as coat the catalyst so that it doesn't work either. The UCE is well designed to run on our current pump piss without fuss or muss. Keep the additives for the Iron Barrel bikes, tho ..... they still kick up their heels a bit with proper doping of the fuel!   

[1Blackwolf1]

  We (Pop and I) used to put a couple ounces of kerosene to a tank of gas in our H-D's.  His three knuckleheads..and the two Panheads and K model I rebuilt.  Pop ran his forevr before any internal work.  Mine I sold way before they needed tear down.  But don't get caught today putting Kerosene into the fuel tank, the EPA will put you under the jail.  Will.

[REpozer]

You gotta start using the old noodle in these tuff economic times folks.

Lets see.... 1 quart used motor oil to 1 gallon gas , should be about right to keep the top end all lubed up, o2 sensors can be replaced.

Think about all that used motor oil that will get recycled , yep think green.

[cyrusb]

The problem with putting oil in your gas is that oil is not gas. When you do this, your engine is receiving less fuel (gasoline) per intake stroke. Which is OK, if less power is what your after. This is just one of the reasons that 2 strokes don't rule the world. If your "additive" is not at least as flamable as the fuel in the tank your losing.

[REpozer]

Old 2 stroke racers, put just enough oil in the gas to keep engine seizure from occurring.Again to get all the power from the gasoline less the oil.

It did not matter if the engine needed a tear down, that was going to happen after each race anyway.

[Ted White]

I second that motion.  Plus, used motor oil probably has some dust-sized metal particles in it that should help seat in those rings on your new 2009 Bullet.

[1Blackwolf1]

  Just put about 4 ounces of the old farm hand Marvel oil in the old GL500 Silverwing I'm rebuilding.  Man forgot how much gunk that stuff will remove from a carb/intake valves.  Sheesh, looked like a 318 Detroit for about 5 minutes.  But man did it smooth it out.  Think I might try a couple ounce charge in the Enfield at next fill-up.  Will.

[bullethead63]

OK...let me get this straight...two ounces of Marvel Mystery Oil per 3.8 gallon tankfull (allowing a little room for expansion,of course),and two ounces in the oil,per oil change?That sound about right to all you RE gearheads? My old man always had Triumphs and BSAs,and swore by the stuff...should I be putting it in my iron lung 2002 Bullet Classic?

[1Blackwolf1]

  That's about what I use.  Actually Iuse an old shot glass..2 is what I put in.  Will.

[UncleErnie]

I've never put it in oil -I don't see the point as the whole oil tank is full of....

       wait for it ~

  OIL.

I do use it in the gas, though.

[Bullet.wagon]

I use synthetic ashless 2 stroke oil in my gas,a ratio of one ounce per 5 gallons of gas,sometimes in my car too. Iron Bullets need all the help you can give em, But I'm partial since I work as an outboard mechanic

[bullethead63]

Thanks,Will...I'll give it a try...

[1Blackwolf1]

  It will also keep gunk from building up in your carb and intake path.  After the first tank you should notice a change, keep us posted on your findings.  Will.

[clamp]

You gotta start using the old noodle in these tuff economic times folks.

Lets see.... 1 quart used motor oil to 1 gallon gas , should be about right to keep the top end all lubed up, o2 sensors can be replaced.  

       Geez thats 25%--- your joking?

      Don't worry about the police they wont be able to see you for the smoke.

[REpozer]

Yes Clamp, it was a joke. So far, you are the only one to get it.

The only additive I use is a fuel stabilizer, because it is cool and damp, and my machines can sit for periods.

Oh, I add oil to the gas(petrol) on my 2- strokers ( chain saw and weed eater).

[bullethead63]

I added 2 ounces of MMO to my full tank of gas today,as well as 2 ounces to the oil...put 20 miles on the clock,pulled the carb and checked the slide...and I'll be damned if it's not clean as a whistle! I'd been having some varnish build-up in my carb,as well as a sticking throttle,and this seems to help...hmmm...232 miles on my odometer,and she REALLY wants to go faster...I cant wait to get the old gal broken in properly,so I can finally give her 4th gear...I'll keep y'all posted on how the MMO works out...thanks again,Will...Bullethead63~

[ace.cafe]

I  knew a guy who used to race a Hudson Hornet back in the 50s, who always put 2 stroke oil in his gas.

[Kevin Mahoney]

I have seen 'scented" oils for bikes. They are the most ridiculous thing like bubble gum scent etc. I'd really like to find something you could put in the petrol to give you that old school Castor smell

[clamp]

Could try castor oil. 

      It will not do it any harm nor any good, the only benefit would appear to be psychological.  So taking that into consideration then it works.  Could try riding with a dummy in your mouth if you unsure ( pacifier in sepo jargon)

     I always polish the underside of the fuel cap, seems to kinda make it idle better.

     I wonder why RE don't recommend using upper cylinder lubricant. I don't remember Ford or GM recommending it either.

      It would appear that they are missing out. You guys are making breakthroughs in engineering  technology.

[GreenMachine]

I have occassionaly put lucas upper cylinder oil with my gas (a capful)...I brought a gallon of the stuff 2 years ago for the old pick up truck but  hate seeing it sit on the shelf....i do the seafoam thing about twice a year and just brought a can for my winter setup on the three bikes and lawn mover....Its probably psychological for sure as I ride a enfield like the rest of u maniacs...

[cyrusb]

My bullet oils its own intake charge automatically right from the oil tank,to the tune of 1 quart per 300 miles so I think that area is covered. Any additional oil would only coke up the cylinder faster.

[ShenandoahThumper]

I have seen 'scented" oils for bikes. They are the most ridiculous thing like bubble gum scent etc. I'd really like to find something you could put in the petrol to give you that old school Castor smell

Castrol R Might still be around. Check at bike shops.


 Not the newer synthetic Castrol R4 stuff.

I believe I still have a case in the garden shed for when I still had my Scott Flying Squirrel.

[Kevin Mahoney]

From what I have read regular Castor oil has a propensity to gum up everything in an engine it comes in contact with. For my needs it would be "the" answer.

[1Blackwolf1]

  Put a couple drops of cosmoline oil in the tank.  That'll bring back a smell from old days.  Will.

[clay]

I use a little seafoam in the RE. My two strokes call for 50 sae non D in there oil tanks