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Article on the new UCE engine
« on: November 30, 2007, 08:57:38 PM »
Reference from the hitchcock's site:

There's a 4 page article on the new UCE engine at:
http://royalenfieldbooks.com/

Click on 'Free Downloads'

You have to go through the motions of a 0-dollar purchase and create an account as you go but it's worth the extra minute or two.

Good pix and interesting article.

it's copyrighted by Gordon G. May.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 07:59:38 AM »
I downloaded it.  what a sqaure dance to get at it though!! 
Nice power plant (I think). 
I was under the impression though that it would be a 650?
I have relatives in France who are big in the bike world there (okay, goldwings, but...), I am going to mail them and see what they can find out about this "new" / "old" Bullet. 

Thanks, for the heads up.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2007, 01:21:34 AM »
I found these pics and thought I would share

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2007, 02:00:15 AM »
I do like the easier clutch cable change. I don't know, it might grow on me yet. I was waiting for a picture of the left side. EFI has to go though. No points I could  live with., maybe.     Hutch
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2007, 02:19:25 AM »
It looks 1960's Japco to me...  not really that bad. To tell you the truth I like the looks of this better than the LB!  To me the LB looks like a Frankenstienie look'n  put together
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2007, 06:25:31 AM »
To me it looks like the future of RE with a clear view of the past.  I like it.  Sign me up for a UCE Classic Bullet from the 1st shipment in (hopefully) late 2008.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2007, 11:59:18 PM »
Here's another one.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 09:24:22 PM »
Good article.  It was indeed a "bloody palaver" to get it though.
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2008, 01:57:04 AM »
I really like the looks of that motor

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2008, 09:04:30 PM »
I really like the looks of that motor
The left side aint bad, the right side is to Japaneese for me. Looks like my Suzuki Savage motor. I just guess I will keep my ironhead Classic, with good old points and a carb I can fix and adjust, on the side of the road. No limping home on "safe mode" for me.  I will just continue on my ride and head home when I feel like it.  Baird4444, I agree with you on the AVL motor.    Hutch
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2008, 12:47:06 AM »
those bends in the exhaust look rather extreme..  i believe it could breath better .. and I see what you say about the otHeR sIdE.. 

I told my wife the primary side of this new one looks like a smaller version of her 883 engine

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2008, 10:50:24 PM »
I wonder how they are handkling the starting system.  Have they devised something new?  Haven't seen electric starting discussed with regard to new engine.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2008, 12:14:53 AM »
To tell you the truth I like the looks of this better than the LB!

Me too.


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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2008, 01:21:46 AM »
Look closely behind the base of the cylinder.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2008, 02:51:35 PM »
Because the engine is ignited by a crank triggered electronic ignition, there is no need for the distributor. The AVL engine simply capped of the timing cover. but the EFI uses that position for the starter motor.

Quite neat actually. It retains the look of having the magnito/distributor in its traditional place, and moves the starter out ot the front and center location on the ES classic and AVL motors.
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2008, 07:16:55 PM »
Looks like a real beauty to me too! :)
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2008, 12:26:33 PM »
Reference from the hitchcock's site:

There's a 4 page article on the new UCE engine at:
http://royalenfieldbooks.com/

Click on 'Free Downloads'

You have to go through the motions of a 0-dollar purchase and create an account as you go but it's worth the extra minute or two.

Good pix and interesting article.

it's copyrighted by Gordon G. May.

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I think that article is long gone.  I can't find it anywhere on that site.  :'(
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2008, 09:39:45 PM »
I found some more spy pics of this engine, and my god it is UGLY. It looks all square and as if its made in china. Why wouldn't they at least TRY to make it look like the classic engine they are famous for? At least Triumph made their new Bonny engines look similar to the old ones.  Bad move if you ask me on REs part, it doesn't even fit the shape of the bike and looks horribly out of place. I hope for RE USAs sake it is a very reliable engine, because they won't be selling these on looks alone anymore.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2008, 01:25:50 PM »
I found some more spy pics of this engine, and my god it is UGLY. It looks all square and as if its made in china. Why wouldn't they at least TRY to make it look like the classic engine they are famous for? At least Triumph made their new Bonny engines look similar to the old ones.  Bad move if you ask me on REs part, it doesn't even fit the shape of the bike and looks horribly out of place. I hope for RE USAs sake it is a very reliable engine, because they won't be selling these on looks alone anymore.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2008, 11:25:21 PM »
Patience my grasshopper
The bike the UCE is in is a stop gap deal just for Europe becuase the engine meets Euro 3. It was always intended for a brand new bike which in theory we will have in 2009. While the look will generate debate, I think most of you will find it beautiful.
For what it is worth, the engine is not in it's final visual form either.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2008, 12:31:21 AM »
Patience my grasshopper
The bike the UCE is in is a stop gap deal just for Europe becuase the engine meets Euro 3. It was always intended for a brand new bike which in theory we will have in 2009. While the look will generate debate, I think most of you will find it beautiful.
For what it is worth, the engine is not in it's final visual form either.
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2008, 12:53:29 AM »
Actually as recently as two weeks ago they were in Italy "tweaking" the sound of the bike. In the domestic Indian market the "Beat" or sound of the engine is absolutely critical. The Lean-Burn apparantly misses the mark, but the new engine with a bit of tweaking has the sound they are looking for. I can't verify this but people at the factory have told me that in the region of Punjab (which is RE's largest market) a customer will walk into a showroom, start all of the bikes and pick the one whose "Beat" is most pleasing to them. I find it so interesting why the bikes sell in different areas of the world. Now always what you think.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2008, 03:30:43 PM »
I'm really looking forward to seeing the new bike. The timing is good too. If I like it, it will be my next bike. I originally wanted a delux, but the Electra had all the engine mods incorporated that I would have done myself, so I went with the X. If they would have come out with the AVL in the old style bikes to begin with, I would have gotten one, But I couldn't wait any longer. I'm happy with my bike now though, I can cruise all day without worry, but in the future, I may want to take a cross-country trip and the UCE will probably handle that better. If the new bike is not to my liking, I'll probably add a Hinckly Triumph to the stable.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2008, 04:17:55 PM »
I do hope they continue to pay careful attention to preserving the classic look.  I hope to see one with the chromed tank.  I can't fault the new engine for looks myself.  Seems very compact and well thought-out. There is something to be said for letting a little modernity show through if the alternative is creating a bunch of falsework just to keep the "classic" look.  If you've seen the current crop of Japanese cruiser bikes, You will notice that some have gone a little bit too far to incorporate a Harley look.

The thing about Royal Enfield is that it IS the authentic product, not a reproduction; and some evolutionary (as opposed to revolutionary) changes for the better are to be expected.  Harley does this and Enfield can do the same thing for the same reasons.  If the result is a more reliable bike with style continuity, then by all means.  Just because I own wrenches doesn't mean I want to use them much.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2008, 06:13:20 PM »
I hope they can do something about the LAMDA sensor, its worse to look at than the PAV!
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2008, 05:20:45 PM »
Well, it's coming into autumn now, and some bike shows are coming up.
Are there going to be any photos expected of the new C5 UCE with the vintage styling?
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2008, 07:20:09 AM »
Click on 'Free Downloads'
Doesn't seem to be a link to "free downloads" anymore.  Has the article been posted anywhere or can some one email me?

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2008, 12:09:51 AM »
The bike will be unveiled at the INTERMOT show in Cologne Germany on October 6. I am sure it will hit the internet within a few minutes. It will be very early morning here in the US. I will be there and will try to upload to the forum if I can from the show site. If not then later in the day.

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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2008, 03:47:19 PM »
Looking forward to it. Will that be the Electra with a UCE or the new body?

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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2008, 03:58:50 PM »
Kind of reminds me off the old flat top BSA engines.  Guess it could grow on you if you give it a chance. ;D
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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2008, 07:59:50 PM »
The bike will be unveiled at the INTERMOT show in Cologne Germany on October 6. I am sure it will hit the internet within a few minutes. It will be very early morning here in the US. I will be there and will try to upload to the forum if I can from the show site. If not then later in the day.
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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2008, 08:01:50 PM »
In theory there will be one at the NY show. It is doubtful that we will do Cleveland (which is my personal favorite show) unless the dealers in that area really want to. You talk to a lot of people at those shows but it is very difficult to determine the cost/benefit ratio, especially for a dealer. Time will tell though.

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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2008, 01:01:53 PM »
Understood on the cost/benefit idea.  Those shows do whack folks a real hunk just for a diddeling bit of their real estate.  Maybe I'll have to wait to see one 'till L & L gets one in, if they do.  Thanks for the response! :)
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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2008, 01:35:12 AM »
With the Ural, the company and dealers have bikes there, and volunteers man the booths. Volunteers get a t shirt and free admission. It is felt that potential customers can actually talk to owners and that is a selling point.
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2008, 03:26:10 AM »
I remember talking to RE owners/volunteers at the NY show a couple years ago, and it was definitely a plus.

Last year I was really disappointed not to see RE there. The highlight for me was the Ural stall, which smelled like booze and some guy was walking around in a grey Soviet officer's uniform with a big cap and high boots.

Looking forward to the RE stall this year.

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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2008, 02:03:40 PM »
Went specifically to the Cleveland show last year at the IX center to see an RE, and there were none there.  Ural, yes.  RE, no.  Hope there'll be an RE represented this year, though if there isn't I will understand as I found out what those jokers that run the shows charge even for an itty bitty piece of their real estate for those 3 (read 2 1/2) days.  I have a strong suspicion those show operators are in it for massive bucks, not for motorcyclists nor motorcycle producers.  The bottom line is bunches of USDs  and the other only as the milch cows for same!  Blechhhh! :P
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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2008, 11:37:29 PM »
I remember talking to RE owners/volunteers at the NY show a couple years ago, and it was definitely a plus.

Last year I was really disappointed not to see RE there. The highlight for me was the Ural stall, which smelled like booze and some guy was walking around in a grey Soviet officer's uniform with a big cap and high boots.

Looking forward to the RE stall this year.

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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2008, 11:39:48 PM »
JD,
Just saw that it was the NY show. I bet that was New Jersey Ken. ;D
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« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2008, 12:38:37 AM »
There was an RE volunteer from New Jersey. I don't recall his name, but he was very friendly and had a green Bullet. I enjoyed talking to him.

The Ural guy in the uniform looked like a retired Ivan Drago. Unfortunately I didn't get his name.  ;)

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« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2008, 03:45:13 AM »
Booth rental alone for the circuit is well in excess of $60,000. NY by itself is about $5,000 for a 20ft by 20ft space. This is only the base beginning.
Then you have to buy state and local licenses, pay union workers so you can roll your own bikes in to some houses. Pay an electrician if you need a light bulb replaced in some cities (can't do it yourself), carpet is another $800-$1,000.per city (can't use your own) .Then there is the cost of transporting the bikes which can easliy run another $50,000-$60,000. Add in travel , hotels food and wages for people to work the booth and it really gets to be a big number.
All of this is for the modest type of space that URAL has had or that we have had at the larger shows. Triumph quit going a couple of years ago. Their bill was over $1,500,000. I cannot imagine what Harley and the other big guys pay.
  The promoters (Advanstar) are only in it for the money, but they are good people and do a good job. I have no gripe with them at all. The cost is not out of line for similar space in other industries.
It costs a lot of money to rent the space and turn on the lights. Go behind one of buildings some time and take a look at the number of huge trucks. It is sort of amazing.
  By comparison a full page ad in Cycle World runs aroung $8,000-$15,000 dependinig upon how many you run a year. Rider is about $5,000 and good old Walnecks is about $1,000 (our best producing ad). A page in the souvineer guide that they give out at the IMS shows is about $3,000-$4,000.
  The prices amaze me especially in the day and age where fewer and fewer comapnies are buying print advertising.
  By far and away the Internet is our best tool. Havingf said that nothing beats seeing one in person and having somebody to answer questions.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2008, 04:12:16 AM »
Damn Kevin, I had no idea it was so expensive. Save your money.

The Enfield is a niche bike, and you don't need to compete with the Honda crowd.

Print advertising (even in Real Estate) is on its' way out. A good web presence is more effective.
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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2008, 05:02:09 AM »
    I went to the Seattle, Wa. Cycle World show 2-3 years in a row about 5-6 years ago, and remember there was a Royal Enfield booth there. I was quite excited to finally see them after reading about them for years.

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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2008, 01:15:27 PM »
Thanks for the read-out on the IM shows prices, Kevin!  I wasn't quite sure what the exact figures were, but I know they were up there. That's some pricey real estate!  Me?  I'll wait 'till Matt at L & L gets an American UCE model in...  I imagine he will when they're finally available. Don't think I'll bother going to the IM show in Cleveland this year.  Not much interested in what anybody else has to offer.  ;D 
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2008, 01:21:39 PM »
Under ideal circumstances we'd go to all of the Cycle World shows, but you can see what the issues are. I like doing the shows. They are a lot of work, but I really enjoy talking to the people. You learn a lot that way..

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« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2008, 02:14:31 PM »
Kevin, let me know via PM if you need volunteers for the NY show. I'm happy to help.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2008, 11:32:09 AM »
Under ideal circumstances we'd go to all of the Cycle World shows, but you can see what the issues are. I like doing the shows. They are a lot of work, but I really enjoy talking to the people. You learn a lot that way..

My family owns a small commercial fishing/marine supply firm in the Seattle area, and every other year, (show would alternate between Seattle and Boston), would rent floor space and booth amenities from the show sponsors.  Once the show (Fish Expo), started moving to the more expensive venues, the costs for these rentals went through the roof, discouraging tenants and the result was fewer displays, thus even higher rents, thus fewer displays, etc., etc., until the little commecial fishing show we participated in morphed into a consolidation of workboats (tugs, oil industry, barge co., and commercial fishing). 
It's still a good trade show, but lost a lot of character and neighborly feel to it, (IMO).
The consequence has been a noticeable absence of the smaller marine suppliers, Mom and Pop fabricators and boatbuilders, and the emphasis went to the biggies, i.e., the major engine suppliers, hydraulic trawl equipment, Furuno, big shipyards in the south, etc.
With that comes a noticeable absence of the "everyman," looking to spend a few thousand bucks.  You end up with a lot of vendors just walking around to see what the competition is doing.

You'd probably be better off just coming around to the various dealerships, showing a few models, maybe have a test ride bike, tear down an engine in 2 hours or less, and give away some hats.  BMW does this and it generates a lot of interest.

For what its worth.  Steve

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2008, 01:05:02 AM »
Kevin, funny you mentioned "Walnecks". It's a great "rag" and where I first saw the Bullet. The ad was in about the middle of the magazine. The photo was fuzzy a bit out of focus  and the color had run. I think they print the magazine on a combination of recycled news and toilet paper. Well anyway, I was totally smitten. I bought one within a year. I didn't even take a test  ride. I found a dealer, bought it and rode it home. It's one of the best decisions I've ever made. That was five years and one wife ago. She's gone, but the Bullet is still with me! This wonderful anachronism helped me stay sane and still does!!!! Works better than Prozac   cochi ;)






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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2008, 01:45:12 AM »
Kevin, funny you mentioned "Walnecks". It's a great "rag" and where I first saw the Bullet. The ad was in about the middle of the magazine. The photo was fuzzy a bit out of focus  and the color had run. I think they print the magazine on a combination of recycled news and toilet paper. Well anyway, I was totally smitten. I bought one within a year. I didn't even take a test  ride. I found a dealer, bought it and rode it home. It's one of the best decisions I've ever made. That was five years and one wife ago. She's gone, but the Bullet is still with me! This wonderful anachronism helped me stay sane and still does!!!! Works better than Prozac   cochi ;)







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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2008, 01:05:24 AM »
Ace, Walnecks is one of my favorite magazines. I really like the reprints of road tests done in the 50's and 60's. They bring back many wonderful memories. You are lucky to have met Buzz. Sounds like a great guy to "bench race" with. I 'm also anxious to see the new Bullet. The motor looks good, but I'm a bit put off by the fuel injection. I like and understand carbs. Electronic fuel injection is a bit too complicated for me. cochi :)

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2008, 05:00:21 PM »
Will EFI put paid to 'home' changes like different silencers, filters etc, because it wont be the case of just changing a jet or two, will it?
It could mean everyone riding round on stock bikes, unless there is a simple way of doing things, it might knock the market for optional parts down too.
Just how much the owner will be able to do himself without complicated tools and computer plug ins concearns me a bit!
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2008, 07:43:04 PM »
Scott, you are absolutely right. It's not easy to tinker with EFI without expensive  gizmo's  and a degree in computer science. I used to be able to tune up my own car. Now when  looking under the bonnet of some  cars,  I can't even see the motor. There is usually a plastic cover over the entire engine bay. I'm afraid that bikes have been heading in the same direction for the last couple of years.  My brother has a late model BMW R1100, with air/oil cooled  boxer motor and it's kind of weird hearing the electric fuel pump motor spool up when the ignition is switched on. It's a great bike, but it costs an arm and leg to service. Give me a good carb any day!! cochi :'(

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2008, 10:14:04 PM »
Fuel injection is not all that bad, once you get used to it.
The new UCE is supposed to feature a "user diagnostic" system that will tell you if there is something wrong, via a series of blinks on some warning light or something.

Mostly, you just need to be sure that the pressure in the fuel system is correct, and that there isn't any blockage in the injector. After that, it's all computer mapping.
But there will be more sensors located on the engine and its parts, for the ECU computer to monitor various conditions.

I'm certain that there will be some form of aftermarket "chip" or "Power Commander" system available at some  point for performance tuning.

Don't let it scare you. Fuel injection is actually a better form of fuel delivery than a carburetor, and can give performance gains and fuel economy improvements.
Go with the flow, don't get intimidated, and everything will be fine.
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2008, 10:20:04 PM »
i think they can even adjust themselves to a change of exhaust systems
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2008, 11:36:47 PM »
Ace, I'll get used to the technology, eventually. I did learn to use a computer just this year, but I'm going into the future kicking and screaming!!! ;Dcochi

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2008, 04:40:29 AM »


Bob,
What did you think of the UCE when you rode it?

i think they can even adjust themselves to a change of exhaust systems
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2008, 10:18:13 AM »
more power,  better aceleration, no need to downshift on some pretty good hills. sounded like a bullet,has that thumper feeling.the odometer had 50 miles on it so i took it easy , then kevin said that the motor was already broken in. some of the other guys may have wrung it out so get some more opinions.
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2008, 03:17:19 PM »
Ace,
I hope you are not suggesting that someone like me has contacted Power Commander in Las Vegas and talked to them about developing a unit, or has started to develop aftermarket exhausts.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2008, 12:38:39 AM »
Ace,
I hope you are not suggesting that someone like me has contacted Power Commander in Las Vegas and talked to them about developing a unit, or has started to develop aftermarket exhausts.
well, it certainly would be nice if you could. it'd be neat to be able to get a different silencer, but i actually like the style you already have. i am curious though, about how much does it take to break in the new engine?

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« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2008, 01:51:37 AM »
Sorry, no idea

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« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2008, 03:12:49 AM »
Sorry, no idea
guess i'll be waiting until they get some circulation in Europe. if worse comes to worse, i could always just give it the standard 1k. ::)

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2008, 04:30:25 AM »
Kinda late on this topic but I would have to agree with what others have said regarding the shows...don't do them, save the money and do advertising with a better payoff and keep overhead down so that we can afford the bikes, parts and accessories. I used to be a Beemer guy, started with their K100's  in '87, then the K1100's in 2000 but the expense of the new bikes, parts and mainteance drove me down to the used Beemers of the low tech variety, the Boxers of a long and venerable history. Not to mention that now the Beemers look like the bikes from the Orient, not that that is bad but just not my cup of tea. I now find myself with the Bullet, an affordable bike, affordable parts and accessories, one I can easily work on myself, a hoot to ride and a great bunch of Bulleteers, (never met any but from the forum I know they are) and that classic look and sound from yesteryear that brings back memories from my youth and makes more memories for the lazy days in the lounger sometime in the future when my leg won't swing over the bike. Keep up the good work and remember we don't need to keep up with the Starbucks crowd.
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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2008, 06:50:06 PM »
I will know a lot more about the bikes after the importers meeting this coming Wed. You can count on me to post when I know more.

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Re: Article on the new UCE engine
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2008, 03:01:08 AM »
With regard to exhaust system improvement, no fuel system modification SHOULD be necessary on the fuel-injected Bullets.  I have a Harley with Keihin fuel injection (the same brand as the UCE), and when I opened up the exhaust with new mufflers, the fuel injection compensated for the change.

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