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Author Topic: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?  (Read 194080 times)

ace.cafe

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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3705 on: November 24, 2013, 02:04:21 PM »
Don't feel bad Scottie.
It's all part of the learning process. If you read the old archives from this site, you'll read things that I wrote back then that I don't agree with today. We are all learning and progressing as we go along. The more that I know about something,  the more that I realize that there's tons of things that I still don't know about it.
Even the most leading experts are still learning.
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3706 on: November 24, 2013, 02:15:09 PM »
Now because I'm mad about this, I'm going to do the only logical thing TO do.....  FIRST, I need to find a website that has current and CORRECT performance information and read my ass off.  Second, as soon as temp gets over 35*F this afternoon I'm going out and running the bike for all its worth so I can really try and feel the difference from before and after.   Uuurrrrggghhh!!!!  I'm so mad I could go enroll for MMI right now.  But I won't, because I'm too old for that shit.

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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3707 on: November 24, 2013, 02:26:40 PM »
Scottie, what you have there is a 'period correct' port and polish job for your bike ;)

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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3708 on: November 24, 2013, 03:27:20 PM »
Don't worry Ace, I haven't, nor plan on touching the heads.  But I must for a moment now discuss my momentary hatred for Wisconsin.  WTF, so apparently most people in Wisconsin are 2 or 3 decades late with performance technology.  After wrenching on this bike for a year, I have learned that everything I thought I knew about performance set ups is now null and void.  Most of my Hot Rod knowledge is apparently directly out of the 1960's and completely irrelevant and useless in today's world, and has basically been limited to the simple knowledge of knowing how an internal combustion engine works.  I guess that what I get for relying on all my educational needs coming from Redneck relatives and Chevy High Performance magazine.  Even with a 1958 bike, what I know (or even thought I knew) isn't shit compared to what I should know.  And most of what I thought I knew, is just plain wrong information.  And here I thought I was a little bit of a bad ass because I was fixing tractors and farm trucks when I was 14.  Wake Up Scottie!!!  You're A Dumbass.

This is saddening to discover.  It is also saddening to find out that all that hard ass work I did last night was in vain and more than likely did more damage than good.  FML.   :(  If it makes a difference, I didn't actually polish anything, just sanded to 1000 grit paper, which apparently is 900 grits too fine.  This isn't how I wanted to start my Sunday.

Scottie

            I felt so bad for you this morning when I read your earlier post on how you finished your ports & Then reading what Ace said because my knowledge also, like yours, goes back to Hot Rod magazines in the '50s & '60s, but for some reason I knew when I was reading what you did that "Oh, no. You don't want to shine them up like that".

       I don't recall how I knew that. Read it somewhere or osmosis or something. I was reading about what you had done & thinking "Uh oh. He's gonna get it from somebody".

       I'm sure glad I've had this forum when it comes to Royal Enfields or I'd be nowhere & still standing in my garage staring at it since December 2010 & scratching my head not knowing a damn thing.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2013, 03:36:19 PM by tooseevee »
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3709 on: November 24, 2013, 03:48:18 PM »
I'm not even going to do anything like this till I talk to you guys first...I remember this being discussed in another forum...You could try it for the hell of it and see if you notice any difference.  It does look great.. ;D
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3710 on: November 24, 2013, 03:56:01 PM »
Now because I'm mad about this, I'm going to do the only logical thing TO do.....  FIRST, I need to find a website that has current and CORRECT performance information and read my ass off.  Second, as soon as temp gets over 35*F this afternoon I'm going out and running the bike for all its worth so I can really try and feel the difference from before and after.   Uuurrrrggghhh!!!!  I'm so mad I could go enroll for MMI right now.  But I won't, because I'm too old for that shit.

Scottie

Scottie,
How 'bout you go to the "Campfire Talk" section of this site, where I posted a thread "Engine Design and Modifications Q/A", and post a question there on that thread about wanting to know some of the current info on engine mods, and I will give you the information you are seeking.
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php/topic,17452.0.html

I spend my life researching this stuff, and then actually doing it, and getting feedback from the results, and refining the methods. I have been studying everything, everywhere, about these things for years, and I am up to the minute on the techniques. And I do this on actual engines regularly, and work with some of the most talented performance specialists around, and they answer my questions when I have them.

The reason I recommend doing it this way is because this gets real complicated, real fast. You touch one thing, and it affects something else, or multiple other things. And there are varieties of approaches to doing mods, depending on the kind of basic platform involved. There are all kinds of variables in different kinds of engines that need to be assessed in a total environment, and then a logical approach defined and executed.

This thread isn't the place for it, because it would hi-jack the whole thread, and so I recommend that we take it up in the Campfire Talk thread where we can obsess about this stuff in unlimited doses.
That's why I posted that thread there.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2013, 04:08:21 PM by ace.cafe »
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3711 on: November 24, 2013, 04:01:54 PM »
Doing it now Tom.
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3712 on: November 24, 2013, 11:57:33 PM »
Wake Up Scottie!!!  You're A Dumbass.

One of the things I really value this forum for:  The only one here who will call you a dumb-ass, Scottie, is you.

I've done some dumb-ass things, and the only thing I got for it was a friendly nudge in the right direction.  Ok, Gremlin did give me a poke one time, but only because I forced his hand!  ;D

Be as hard on yourself as you like - we won't be...

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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3713 on: November 25, 2013, 12:38:03 AM »
To cold to ride today, not even much fun to be in the workshop Brrrrr. But I did bid on a mismatched pair of Albert Bar End Mirrors on Ebay. I wanted the Sport Mirror-as I have its mate in my stash. The other mirror was the Albert Touring Mirror, which I could use on my next Sidecar Tug. They wanted $12. shipping, I bid up to $71. & bailed. THEY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT $177.  They were great mirrors but silly expensive.
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3714 on: November 25, 2013, 10:05:32 AM »
I kicked it into life and rode off to pick up my girlfriend and take her for a romantic scenic ride through the mountains dining on bread, wines and cheese.
Then I asked her to marry me, which she agreed then started to kiss me....

Then I woke up, and remembered I don't own a Bullet yet :(

Or a girlfriend for that matter... ::)
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3715 on: November 25, 2013, 02:12:21 PM »
REported my intake manifold yesterday afternoon, after discovering that polishing is just a way to make you fingers hurt really bad while apparently causing the bike to not run as good.  Lesson learned I guess.   :P  This time I opened up the carb flange a bit to better mate the carb and tried to sand don the runners in a spiraling motion.  Kind of got what I wanted to achieve.  I don't think I actually gained any HP but the throttle response is real solid and crisp now.





And here's a little video after warming up the bike on a short ride.  I'm really liking the new throttle response.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDdaKFWPMOA&feature=youtu.be

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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3716 on: November 25, 2013, 03:59:53 PM »
Sounds great and throaty..No harm, No foul and a few years ago, you would have done what was considered the standard practice of the day for improved performance...
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3717 on: November 25, 2013, 04:34:16 PM »
Cool!
Good recovery on the rebound!
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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3718 on: November 25, 2013, 04:45:26 PM »
REported my intake manifold yesterday afternoon, after discovering that polishing is just a way to make you fingers hurt really bad while apparently causing the bike to not run as good.  Lesson learned I guess.   :P  This time I opened up the carb flange a bit to better mate the carb and tried to sand don the runners in a spiraling motion.  Kind of got what I wanted to achieve.  I don't think I actually gained any HP but the throttle response is real solid and crisp now.





And here's a little video after warming up the bike on a short ride.  I'm really liking the new throttle response.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDdaKFWPMOA&feature=youtu.be

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Re: What did you do to your Royal Enfield today?
« Reply #3719 on: November 25, 2013, 05:30:22 PM »
With the polished tubes, the gas will tend to actually puddle on the polished metal, as the airflow is too smooth to break the droplets up, the rougher finish causes more turbulence at the surface and tends to break up the droplets and keeps them atomized. This realization came in the '50s or maybe the '60s. It's old info.
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