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2009 UCE owners
« on: January 28, 2011, 03:46:29 PM »
There are about 200 of you - or bikes, anyway - that had the gearbox upgrade done here at CMW by yours truly. It was pretty grueling, with an average of 12 bikes a week being redone here. So far, with the warranty goggles on, there have been no reported engine problems with the little mills. We DID do a little "spookie, spookie" to most of them while they were in here to make 'em a little better ......  ::)

Feedback would be appreciated. All the CMW done engines will have a "semi colon" stamped on the engine after the serial number. Mine will have "SB" on the top of the rocker covers - and most of them have "OK" on the front behind the engine mount. Mighty Mo' Money's bikes will have "MO" on the rocker covers ...... Again - I'm just curious. I want everyone to have a GOOD one to enjoy!  ;) Thanks to all in advance for the feedback.
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 04:06:53 PM »
My C5 was done by my dealer at  Interstate Motorcycles, it was perfect when I took it in and it was perfect when I rode it home. No problems of any kind either before or after the upgrade.
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 04:55:49 PM »
SB, i believe mr. vince did mine  all is well
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 09:51:54 PM »
Vince told me mine was done by you at CMW, the bike coming from unique in Ft.. Collins, Co. You know the rest.

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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 10:28:14 PM »
My '09 G5 is very low mileage.  I got it in early Dec '10 wirh 32 miles on the odometer.  I see the ":" after the engine no., but do not see any markings on rocker covers, but have not removed the tank to see the top.  Where can I find posting on what was done?  I have had no problems except for a few wires on worng terminals behind headlamp.   With bad weather and work on new sidecar and making G-5 to Cozy mounts, i have only put about 150 miles on it so far.  GA-DK

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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 02:48:07 AM »
My '09 G5 is very low mileage.  I got it in early Dec '10 wirh 32 miles on the odometer.  I see the ":" after the engine no., but do not see any markings on rocker covers, but have not removed the tank to see the top.  Where can I find posting on what was done?  I have had no problems except for a few wires on worng terminals behind headlamp.   With bad weather and work on new sidecar and making G-5 to Cozy mounts, i have only put about 150 miles on it so far.  GA-DK

If you use a mirror on the G5 you can see the tops of the rocker covers pretty easily.
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 04:27:27 PM »
If I recall the 09 military models were exempt from this tranny work.  Is that correct? 
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 05:38:09 PM »
That's not right. Mine is an '09 Military and has the CMW : behind the engine serial #. Haven't checked the valve covers yet. Your engine serial number is stamped under the primary case, and if it was done at CMW, it will be stamped : . Mine was manufactured 3/09.  My vin last 5 digits begin 50###, so if you're in that ball park, somebody did the fix. You could check with your dealer and I think the Military bikes were some of the first bikes brought in. Or CMW knows your vin and when they stopped doing the fix.
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2011, 10:20:45 PM »
 Not certain here but,,,,I vaguely remember something like the Militarys weren't affected but could have be be gone through anyway just allay any possible perceptions of future concerns.

I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2011, 11:22:38 PM »
If I recall the 09 military models were exempt from this tranny work.  Is that correct? 
Sam

Correct - All of the C5 Military bikes had chassis numbers too high to be affected. ALL of the G5 Military bikes were affected by the gearbox upgrade. VERY few of those were done at dealers.
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2011, 03:45:49 AM »
 Shifts as smooth as silk and the Motor  thumps like a...... kitten? No problems at all.
It would seem that I may have a collectors item on my hands. First year C-5, signed by both Scooterbob in green, and MO in orange,[fitting colors],  ;) On top of the front rocker box. Easy to see with a mechanics mirror, up through the gap near the spark plug. Also says "OK" and 7/09. I think, not great at reading backwords ::) You can also tell a thorough job was done because of, all the fastener's have torque mark on them. A good sign that they weren't rushing the work. Good job MO and SB !!
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2011, 03:54:01 PM »
If you got one that we BOTH conspired on - it'll be ultra rare - and probably darn good, too! Mighty Mo' Money is even pickier than I am when it comes to repair work - and he's DARN good at it to boot ...... He probably busted my chops on something and put his "signature" on the little mill to show that it WAS, indeed, fit for consumption! Hahaha!   ;) I'm glad that it's been trouble free for you! That was the goal.  ;D
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 02:27:43 AM »
My G5 was one of those recalled units - being one of the first ones sold here. You could hear the engine grinding as it approached 50 mph  :o.  It was taken to the local dealer. He had upgraded the transmission and replaced / added new parts.  

Since then, it has travelled a good number of miles, over 12,000 so far.  Engine has been running well. I just rode it today, one kick and it started right up - ready to go  ;D.
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 02:42:44 AM »
Hey, stop bragging!  Some of us are still trying to get to 5000 miles! ;)

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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 03:07:05 AM »
Hey, stop bragging!  Some of us are still trying to get to 5000 miles! ;)

Scott:

I wanted to get to 20,000 miles - to check the warranty  ;).  Don't you think I am way behind ;D !
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 06:38:15 AM »
I'll get 5000 before February is out if the weather cooperates.

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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2011, 07:36:31 AM »
 that may be wishful thinking .  then again i'm a wimp and try to avoid metro area

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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2011, 10:33:59 PM »
Best I can tell, I've got a MO painted in red/orange on the exhaust cover and something like MV-235 (like a part #) in magic marker,black, on the intake cover. Also, header??????

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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2011, 10:38:34 PM »
Best I can tell, I've got a MO painted in red/orange on the exhaust cover and something like MV-235 (like a part #) in magic marker,black, on the intake cover. Also, header??????

A Mo'-Motor! ...... and that's "09V-235" on there. It's the "official" nomenclature for that gearbox upgrade. Tim has been on the parts dispatch in India like ugly on an ape trying to get that pipe and a couple of OTHER parts for people. You are rattling - but still riding ..... If anyone on the Planet can get those in here, it'd be Tim. He is a CHAMPION at dealing with the Factory boys and shaking stuff loose that  seems to be on perpetual backorder ..... Hang in there!
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2011, 01:00:10 AM »
Thanx. The bike has proven to be more rock solid, more kick above 65 indicated, more than freeway capable, comfortable at 65-70 indicated without windscreen, especially the way I ride, than I would have thought. I'm hard on it, like to get it hot, not afraid to use my wrist. The suspension is stiff, as are my tires and other things, and it's withstood potholes and bumps I really wish I had missed. My only gripe: I seem to keep grinding my centerstand and rear brake pedal on turns. I thought I would hate those old skinny tires, in spite of the wonderful way they look, but glory be, they're great: at speed, in the rain (lotsa in Seattle), cornering, whatever. They have never even come close to breaking loose. AM26, no way. Kick starting trick for me is making sure I've only gone 2 cycles before I "kick it"; this has solved my hot bike starting issues. I'm still confused on the kick/compression feel. Sometimes it doesn't seem like there's any and most times I feel it. I'd like to know how many degrees of the crankcase corresponds to the 90 degrees of kick. As one bystander commented on an immaculate first kick start: '" when you have a kickstart, you've earned the ride!" Bonding, you know. :-) I think the G-5 frame is a better frame than the C-5 because of the way the shocks are attached, but short of being a hardtail with a girder front fork, I'm happy. Besides, EVERYBODY loves that oldschool, military look. Only thing I would do is put a K&N without the airbox on it and get rid of all the side covers except maybe put a square cover on the battery. Those bulbous lids just don't do it for me. 4500 miles on the clock, which means about  4,000 real miles.
     As far as parts go, India has a different sense of time than we do: soon is maybe next year, whenever they get around to it!! Also, what exactly constitutes a Mo motor??
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2011, 01:44:15 AM »
Joe - You have discovered why the Enfield is SUCH a good all around package! It's never been CHANGED ('til the C5 - but a whole different story!) - only TWEAKED since the 1950's .... Change for change sake does not exist in the Enfield works. There has to be a REASON to change something - and as I've found, with the engineers - a GOOD reason! Haha! Your bike works so well because of the original Iron Barrel bikes - and then the Sixty-Five - and then the Electra - all of which are essentially well tweaked Iron Barrels!

As for dragging all the parts off going around corners? Atta boy! You are using the full potential of the bike! Ride it like you stole it - I doubt that you'll hurt it!

As for the significance of the MO motor? It was updated and carefully assembled at here, in Faribault, by Mo' Money - the famous Tall, Skinny racer boy that we keep under wraps here. If we'd let him OUT, he's liable to be famous!

You are somewhat correct about the India parts schedule, too - Their parts guys are absolutely overwhelmed by the new bikes that they are building. Unlike here - it's hard to find a good and qualified parts guy "off the street" in India. They have added a few fellows from what Tim tells me - but they, too are buried in trying to keep the assembly lines moving ..... The good news in all that is that they like Tim -0 and he DOES, seriously have a "way" with them .... I have faith!
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2011, 02:48:02 AM »
Again, thanx. I knew the Mo bit, but there seemed to be more to the story, like some kind of tweaks to make it "better". That and the kick degree issue were my questions.

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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2011, 08:11:01 AM »
jjoe I have not looked closely at the center stand on the UCE machines but if it is the same as the Iron Barrels there will be a 1/2" thick rubber bumper pad on the cross piece.

 I removed mine and glued on a tractor trailer radial tire patch in its place.
 
This roughly 1/8" thick pad allows the center stand to tuck up higher when in the stowed position and eliminated all grinding in turns.

 I chose Seal All  contact cement to glue the patch on as they advertise it to be fuel and oil resistant. Over 5,000 miles and its still there. Most likely any good contact cement would work.

I used carb and choke cleaner to de grease the center stand before applying the cement. When it was almost dry I put the patch on and tapped it with a hammer to ensure complete contact and adhesion




I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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"TIMEX", the '06 Iron Barrel Military that takes me everywhere I want to go... and some places I shouldn't.

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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2011, 12:29:45 PM »
Again, thanx. I knew the Mo bit, but there seemed to be more to the story, like some kind of tweaks to make it "better". That and the kick degree issue were my questions.

Well - ANY engine that got done in Faribault got the deluxe treatment ..... hand selected parts, clearances checked for real, careful hand assembly ..... definitely better than when they were cracked apart - which was OK ...... I don't have a clue about the degree of rotation of engine vs. kicker tho .......
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Re: 2009 UCE owners
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2011, 04:28:20 PM »
Well, I guess I have a Military Deluxe then  ::)

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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2011, 01:02:28 AM »
Well, I guess I have a Military Deluxe then  ::)

Well - it's one deluxe Military if nothin' else!  ;)
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