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Author Topic: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?  (Read 4480 times)

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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2011, 11:22:34 AM »
Anyone ever used OWS(germany) additive products?

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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2011, 01:36:08 PM »
Techron fuel additive is a life saver.When i was working at a VW dealer in the 1980's it was recommended by Volkswagen for removing intake valve deposits.I have seen deposits on intake valves that looked like a primordial forest using a borescope completely eradicated with one tank treatment,it is the cat's meow.
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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2011, 01:45:10 PM »
Oop's, i must be going senile.I now work with direct injection gas engines,and guess what?Techron is back in the picture for cleaning carboned-up injectors.

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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2011, 04:00:36 PM »
how does that compair to sea foam?
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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2011, 04:32:35 PM »
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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2011, 04:48:14 PM »
Thanks Singh,that about sum's it up.

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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2011, 05:37:18 PM »
Isn't it also a selling point with their fuel..chevron gas with techron in it??
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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2011, 06:03:00 PM »
Anyone ever used OWS(germany) additive products?

Randhawa Ji:

Sat Sree Akaal.  Below is an Indian car website that has reviewed OWS 360 fuel additive in comparison to others available in India.  Can you buy it in your home town ?  If so, copy the MSDS sheet or the list of its ingredients from the Can.  Then we can compare it to what is sold in US.

http://www.tatasafariclub.com/node/246/image_gallery
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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2011, 06:03:45 PM »
Isn't it also a selling point with their fuel..chevron gas with techron in it??

I cant comment on Sea Foam, never used it.

Chevron does use the Techron (was known as Techrolene) in their gas but its a small amount for everyday use. The concentrated stuff is for engines where there IS  a problem.
Shell has a simular additive as does Unocal.
Using the Costco Techron is probably good too but with the lower amount of active ingredient, youll have to do the math on what is the best buy.  We use it on bikes that have a problem or as a every few months "booster shot".
Again, ours is one ounce per gallon, 15.00 per 20 ounce bottle.
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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2011, 06:34:22 PM »
how does that compair to sea foam?

Bob:

The ingredients in Sea Foam are very different from those of Techron Concentrate Plus Fuel Additive.  

Australian Chevron website states that Techron contains polybutene amines (PBA) and polyether amines (PEA).  There was no mention of what else it contains.  Assuming it is a mixture of several PBA and PEA compounds, it will act like a strong organic solvent.  Need more information on the exact composition to fully assess its functions.  

http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/additives/tcp.aspx

Sea Foam however has 3 different ingredients, each doing different thing - it is a multi purpose additive - 1) It acts as solvent.  2) it acts as lubricant.  3) It removes water.  I have its composition listed in the MSDS thread in Tech Tips of the Forum.

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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2011, 11:04:48 AM »
Sat Sree Akaal Singh Ji.

So far I have managed to locate three system cleaner available in my town.

A. OWS(Germany) for two wheelers- No info on content.

B. Wuerth(Germany) Petrol Additive-

1. Low boiling point hydrogen treated naptha
2. Propane-2-ol
3. kerosine
4. Hydrocarbylamine
5. Phenol, isobutylented
6. 2-(2-heptadec-8-enyl-2-imidazolin-1-yl)ethanol
7. (Z)-N-methyl-n-(1-oxo-9-octadecenyl)glycine
8. Napthalene

C. Cyclo(USA)- Max 44 total system cleaner - Contents
1.     Fuel oil, no. 2
2.   Xylene (mixed isomers)
3.   Ethylbenzene
4.   Naphthalene
5.   Polymer Amine Blend

What do you think which one sounds more promising?

Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2011, 11:27:46 AM »
I am jumping into this thread late and know absolutely nothng about engine fuel additives, but I had wondered in an earler thread whether the alcohol content variation in gasoline from region to region may account for some of the variability in performance (both speed and mileage) we see from owners on these threads/  SB's comment above on this thread regardign the potential to "fool" the oxygen sensors make we wonder that again.  Thoughts?    Nigel

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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2011, 01:55:39 PM »
I am jumping into this thread late and know absolutely nothng about engine fuel additives, but I had wondered in an earler thread whether the alcohol content variation in gasoline from region to region may account for some of the variability in performance (both speed and mileage) we see from owners on these threads/  SB's comment above on this thread regardign the potential to "fool" the oxygen sensors make we wonder that again.  Thoughts?    Nigel
YES! The fuel blend will definitely affect mileage and performance - more ethanol - less mileage, percent for percent almost. It's exacerbated on a ONE cylinder engine because you FEEL every firing cycle, too .... one or two lean hiccups in a row and you are going "WTF????" ................
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Re: Fuel Injector & Valve Cleaner / Lube for Motorcycle ?
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2011, 02:36:24 PM »
I think alcohol has about half the energy of gasoline when you burn it.  It's a very clean burning fuel but if you run a fuel like E-85 (85% ethanol, 15% gas) you need things like bigger injectors or carbs to deliver the fuel the engine needs and you get much less power for the same displacement.

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