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Author Topic: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected  (Read 1210 times)

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Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« on: August 18, 2011, 07:49:20 AM »
Adrienne and I are on our Route 66 trip. Perth, Ontario, to LA.

She laid her bike down in Miami, Oklahoma. The shifter shaft moves in and out by one inch and is not connected to any internals. Can shift down. If I remove the (bent) foot peg, I can rotate the shifter 175 degrees and shift up.

What should I tell the repair guy and what is he likely to tell me?

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 03:46:47 PM »
Sorry to hear about your mishap, but certainly glad to hear she's OK.
 
There is a dealer in Tulsa. I don't know if there are any others in that area
The mechanic will have to pull the right hand cover. Hopefully the damage will be limited to the arm that  drives the shaft that that goes into the gearbox. It may have come loose so that it will spin on the shifter shaft accounting for the fact that if you turn the shifter around it will catch again. Or, most probably, it may have just popped out of the fork. No way to tell without pulling the cover. It would seem to be the most vulnerable thing that would let the shift shaft move in and out. If it goes deeper than that, it's an engine teardown.
As far as what to tell him, what you said here is probably the best thing.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 04:00:39 PM »
Glad the girl is in good shape, good luck!
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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 04:07:42 PM »
     The shift shaft goes all the way through to the other side of the engine. It has a tab  that fits into a notch on the vertical shaft that moves the shift plate. It sounds like one side of the notch is broken off. The entire right side of the engine will have to be disassembled to get to it. You need to repair it now because if that notched piece is broken off you have a chunk of metal floating around in the crank case. It will wreak havoc if it gets between a couple of gears.
     The shift shaft is located with circlips that may have popped off, causing the side to side movement These will be under the left engine cover. Because of this, the shifting issue may just be that the tab popped out of the notch and nothing is broken. However, the right covers still need to come off to inspect and re-locate the mechanism.
      Wish I had better news.
     Glad your daughter is OK.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 05:10:58 PM »
Glad to hear you daughter and riding buddy is o.k. 
I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 06:17:59 PM »
Glad you and your daughter are okay, the bike can be fixed.   

And Welcome to Oklahoma!!   Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains!

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 06:39:57 PM »
Wish you and your daughter a safe ride ahead. Glad that she is OK.

The picture below shows the notch that Vince is talking about - on the right side of crankcase.
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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 11:58:28 PM »
Thank you for the pic Br. Singhg  :D

 On taking a closer look at it the shift shaft may have some other possibilities,,,,,like a R/H shift conversion  ;D
I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 02:34:24 AM »
Chris, PM me and let me know when you are running back through Missouri.  I'm stationed right off the route and would be happy to provide you any assistance you need if you are in need be it a place to rest from the road for a little while or a meal and friendly conversation  of any and would love to talk with you both about your travels as I am currently planning a Route 66 trip for my best friend and I and would love to ge your input on things!.  Plus there is a RE dealer about 20 min from my location.

Glad to hear that your daughter is OK!


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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2011, 03:27:42 AM »
Hey Guys,

You saved me big time.

The finger was bent and popped out of the notch.

This morning, I considered shipping the bike back to Ontario and flying my daughter. Alternatively, I was going to leave the bike in Miami for ten days. Instead of canceling the trip on day five, we will be on the road tomorrow.

We are going to slow down though. We were trying to make it to a camp ground and she out ran her headlights.

The C5 is a tough bike and so easy to repair.

The guys at Route 66 Custom Cycles are wonderful.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2011, 03:38:43 AM »
That is very good news and I'm glad to hear it.

Have you considered a 7" headlight kit ?
Not to ride faster but to increase detection distance and afford more reaction time.

An H4 bulb takes up little room in the spares kit too

BTW did your daughter get checked out at the doctors ?
Some of us sustained injuries that turned out to be worse than they looked.
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I can break it better,,,,at night, in the rain, on the trail,, 20 miles from nowhere.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2011, 01:57:57 PM »
Hi Christopher,

I have driven through Perth, ON, many times and always liked the place. I hope everyone is doing well and you get to complete the journey.

Raj.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2011, 04:05:39 PM »
Glad to hear you're on the road again. When you get to CA, PM me.
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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2011, 05:28:57 PM »
Three cheers for Route 66 Custom Cycles!  I took a look at their site and the owners both seem to have extensive experience with many things mechanical.  I'm also glad to hear the UCE living up to the reputation of the old Bullets: easy to fix no matter where you are!

Every worhtwhile adventure requires a little adversity.  I'm glad you're on the road again and that you've chosen to slow down.  The number of miles you cover together is less important than the time you spend together.  Take it slow ;)

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2011, 08:26:47 PM »
Chris, how did you fix it? Just bend it back? replace c clip? Take both sides apart?

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2011, 04:28:58 AM »
Rather than quote a few in multiple replies I will offer this:

I got my daughter to emergency right away. After cleaning her road rash and taking four x-rays to confirm nothing was chipped, we were sent on our way. She has a total of sox square inches of road rash with small deep centers in both. Her left elbow and right hip rubbed the gravel. Nothing sprained. Despite the heat, we both wear protective gear. She said it was like falling off a skate board.

After taking off both the right and left hand side covers, the guys at Route 66 Custom Motorcycles bent the finger of the shifting rod back to straight and filed off a burr. Reassembly and new oil (my favorite synthetic), with one of the filters we carried sorted the main issue out. They also loosened the front end and shook the bike into alignment. With a little heat and black paint, the left hand foot peg is like new.

We were allowed to watch. They told stories and listened to ours. My daughter wad also encouraged not to out run her abilities.

I would tell you how little it cost but it may have been an act of kindness and other customers may get real rates. I have a real invoice but cannot believe their math. If they were real rates, I might just ride the 3000kms routinely to get all my work done there.

I cannot get over how tough the RE is. Nor can I believe how well the handle bars and foot pegs are placed to minimize cosmetic damage. The bike slid on it's left side and flipped to the right. The leading edge of the fender is scratched along with the usual bar end scrapes, clutch lever and mirror scrapes. Everything else is just dusty.

Back to the alignment, the mechanic loosened it up and knocked the front wheel against the side of his building. This with a "That ought'a do it... Looks right." and... well it looked right. He set it up in other ways too. After riding it today, my daughter says the handle bars are better placed than when she started the trip.

This bike is what we were promised: 85 mpg, 70mph all day, if it falls on it's right side, you can fix it by pushing it over on it's left. All this and people follow you into parking lots to ask questions and take pictures. This last feature is a problem when you really have to pee.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2011, 06:19:47 AM »
Wish you and your daughter a safe ride ahead. Glad that she is OK.

The picture below shows the notch that Vince is talking about - on the right side of crankcase.

thanks for the update on your daughter. I was afraid she might not want to ride any more. Those guy at the shop are golden, impressed upon her safety without nagging. Hope it took. And good on ya for always always dressing for the fall. Probably saved her from having a lot worse road rash.

wow, the gear picture is one great photo. That is the sharpest and best marked picture I have seen. Wished you had a whole tech manual with photos like that
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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2011, 11:44:59 AM »
A dealer like this deserves the support of riders, not often that you hear of fair service.  :)
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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2011, 05:03:56 PM »

A dealer like this deserves the support of riders, not often that you hear of fair service.  :)


+1 I went by there this week, nice clean shop and showroom.  There is a vintage motorcycle  museum just across the street that's a good place to visit also.  See the picture I posted in the photo gallery.

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Re: Daughter Laid Her C5 Down / Not Hurt / Shifter Disconnected
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2011, 08:31:43 PM »
+2.  Should I ever make it to that part of the country I'd have to stop in.

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